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Notes: This conversation wandered all over the place, from massages to bondage clothes, RL religion, Neutrality, apologies from the Wicked Judge, Abe's crankiness, and everything in between, including a WHO list. Log by Cordir, who had only just the day before been restored to Ambassador status after punishment.
Primary Participants: Rath, Cordir, Emaleth, Ephiny, Belsambar.



time
It is 8am on Zoardryn the 15th, the month of the Deities' Wrath, in the year 2499.
TFC started up at Fri Oct 26 22:26:26 2001 / The system time is Mon Oct 29 19:18:27 2001


### [Somewhere, Ephiny kneads into your muscles, easing out the tension, and making you feel all tingly]
### [Somewhere, Ephiny smoothes it into your skin, working the knots harder]

The Offices of the Midgaard Daily News
[Exits: east]
(Dark Red Aura) Rath is resting here.
(Light Blue Aura) Ephiny is here.
(Light Blue Aura) Emaleth is resting here.
(White Aura) Greta waits for you to place your advertisement.

Emaleth laughs.

You blink.
You smile happily.
You say, 'Hello.'.

Emaleth smiles happily.

Ephiny raises an eyebrow.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Heya Cordir!'.
Emaleth hugs you.

You say, 'Mind another visitor'.

Ephiny curtseys gracefully for you.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Hows it?'.

Ephiny nods.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Not at all'.

You hug her.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I guess we're buggin' Rath.'.
Emaleth smiles happily.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Makes my night just knowin that'.

Emaleth smiles at you.

Rath says (in common), 'hey Cordir'.

Ephiny takes Rath's head in her two hands and shakes it slightly, then makes it nod up, and down,

Rath says (in common), 'you know Abe was talking bad about you today'.

Emaleth grins happily.

You say, 'Hello, Wicked Judge.'.

You say, 'Was he?'.

Rath says (in common), 'I tried to take up for you,but alas'.

Emaleth tells you (in common), 'No. :)'.

Ephiny snuggles up to Emaleth.

You say, 'ANd what was he saying?'.

Rath says (in common), 'ok so I'm not being completely honest..'.

You tell Emaleth, 'no what?'.

Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.

Emaleth looks at Sleighty.

Ephiny trails kisses down your neck and wraps her arms around you, hugging you close.

Rath says (in common), 'but he definately needs a good poking'.

Ephiny beams a smile at Emaleth.

You blink.

Ephiny blinks at what you said, seemingly stunned.
Ephiny stares at the sky.

You say, 'Umm..'.
You say, 'actually...'.

Ephiny hugs Emaleth.

You say, 'I hear its you that needs a beating about the head and shoulders'.

Ephiny squeezes Emaleth fondly.

Emaleth laughs.

You say, 'Something about "no, it was Cordir in safehaven"'.

Rath gasps in astonishment.

Emaleth kisses Ephiny.

Rath says (in common), 'ME'.

wrath rath
Your wrath peels the skin off him.

Rath shivers uncomfortably.

Ephiny throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!

Emaleth snuggles with Ephiny happily watching Rath get peeled.

Rath says (in common), 'er..'.
Rath says (in common), 'um'.

Ephiny giggles at Emaleth's actions.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Good look for you'.
Emaleth smiles happily.
Emaleth says (in common), 'I'd say its a keeper'.
Emaleth grins happily at Rath.

Rath is,for the first time in his existance,nearly speechless.

Emaleth beams a smile at Ephiny.
Emaleth gasps in astonishment.

Ephiny points at Rath's bright red skin.

Emaleth grabs a calender.

Cordir taps one foot quite impatiently, her brow raised to a nearly impossible arch.

Rath says (in common), 'well..um..he started it'.
Rath cringes in terror!

Emaleth laughs.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Oh, how mature'.

Cordir narrows her eyes further.

Emaleth smiles happily.
Emaleth laughs.

Emaleth cuddles Ephiny.

Ephiny believes THIS to be for the timeline..Rath speechless...

Rath glares at Ephiny.

Ephiny flogs Rath for what he did!

You say, '"how could "no, it was Cordir, in Safehaven" be ABE's fault, when it came from YOUR mouth?'.

Rath says (in common), 'because he instigated it!'.

You say, 'And... and...'.

Rath says (in common), 'he accused me of beastality'.
Rath says (in common), 'that deserves a good hearted reply'.

Ephiny laughs.

Rath scowls.

You say, 'I'm not sure whether or not to be horrified or flattered'.

Emaleth snickers softly.

You say, 'What, so I'm a scant step above A COW>!?!!'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Was it with a goat? Sorry i just HAVE to ask'.

Rath says (in common), 'um'.

Cordir looks quite, quite pissed.

Rath says (in common), 'don't you have some minotaur relatives...'.

You gasp in astonishment.
You viciously slap him across the face.

Ephiny laughs at you mercilessly. Hmmmmph.
Ephiny blushes.

Rath says (in common), 'I thought Kennet was a mino?'.
Rath says (in common), 'or something '.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'so see...'.

You say, 'He's the half brother of my ex-fiance'.

Rath says (in common), 'oh close enough'.

You say, 'That's not exactly RELATED to a cow'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'a Cow?'.

Rath says (in common), 'well see..you can kind of..sort of..'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Cows are pretty creatures....make milk...'.

Rath says (in common), 'ok not really..make sense of what I said'.

Ephiny gets herself a glass of milk.
Ephiny gives a glass of milk to Emaleth.
Ephiny nods in recognition to Emaleth.

Rath says (in common), 'but what Abe said was just purely instigational'.

Cordir narrows her eyes again, sparks glittering in their depths.
Cordir taps her foot.

Emaleth stands up.

Cordir thinks an abject apology is in order.

Rath scowls.
Rath hates apologizing.

Emaleth giggles.

Ephiny taps her foot, and dances across the room with a make-believe cane and tophat.

Cordir folds her arms across her ENTIRELY NON BOVINE chest, and waits.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Cordir, I gotta say, this has been quite amusing.'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'I am so glad yer back'.
Emaleth smiles happily.

Rath says (in common), 'quiet you'.

Ephiny throws back her head and cackles with insane glee!

Rath glares around him.

Emaleth sticks her tongue out and goes pppphhhhhhttttttt!

Rath says (in common), 'I'll turn you into a pancake and feed you to the co...er..horses'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Well cows are mammals'.

You grit your teeth and look mean.

Ephiny says (in common), 'at least he didnt call you a bird'.
Ephiny shrugs.

You say, 'Some of my favorite individuals are birds.'.

Rath says (in common), 'or a gnome!'.

You say, 'Some of my favorite individuals are gnomes.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I hate gnomes'.

You say, 'I would have preferred either to a COW'.

Rath says (in common), 'especially the Lins variety'.

Ephiny sits down and thinks deeply.

Rath winces. Ouch!

Ephiny says (in common), 'You must not like Noctus then'.

You say, 'Well, Noctus is my favorite gnome.'.

Ephiny nods in recognition to you.
Ephiny says (in common), 'Mine too'.

Cordir is still waiting.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I don't know him'.

Rath says (in common), 'Noctus is tolerable'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I've heard 'bout him. Seems ok n' stuff'.

Cordir arches an eyebrow inquisitively.

Rath folds his arms over his mammoth chest.

You say, 'Surely he is better than 'tolerable.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm not saying anything till Abe apologizes'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Ty is my favorite bird, and Noctus for gnome..and....hmmm'.
Ephiny says (in common), 'Me for half-elf'.

You say, 'For Maldobar would not quit pestering him about joining the Black Conclave yesterday.'.

Rath says (in common), 'respectable..to a degree'.

You say, 'That's between you and he.'.
You say, 'For with his comment, he insulted you.'.
You say, 'but with your comment, you insulted me.'.

Rath says (in common), 'who's comment?'.

Ephiny responds to Emaleth with a shrug.

Rath says (in common), 'oh'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.

Ephiny sighs loudly.

Rath boggles.

Cordir taps her foot and waits some more. Cracks begin to appear in the floor beneath her tiny foot.

Emaleth kisses Ephiny.

Rath says (in common), 'don't you mean hoof...er..nevermind'.

You grit your teeth and look mean.

Emaleth bounces as the tub starts to bubble.

Rath says (in common), 'I apologize for referring to you as a cow'.

wrath rath
Your wrath peels the skin off him.

Ephiny buries her head in Emaleth's shoulder and sighs. She closes her eyes and tries to ignore the surrounding racket.

Rath bows before you.

Emaleth says (in common), 'oh...she should get mad more often'.
Emaleth grins happily.
Emaleth says (in common), 'heats the water nice'.

Ephiny kisses Emaleth.
Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.

Rath scowls.

Cordir nods ever so slightly.
You say, 'Apology accepted.'.

Rath says (in common), 'but that's the only apology I'm giving'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Wrath peels Rath'.

Emaleth wraps her arms around Ephiny, with a smile.

Ephiny giggles at herself, she must be nervous or something.

Emaleth grins happily at Ephiny.
Emaleth laughs.

Rath says (in common), 'oh you're a quick witted one,Ephiny'.

Emaleth nods in recognition to Ephiny.

(Ephiny wears all and adjusts her eq)

You thank Ephiny heartily.

Ephiny says (in common), 'I figure..a Goddess means i must be dressed'.

Rath says (in common), 'never does my amazement cease at your sharp wits '.

Ephiny says (in common), 'err ambassador'.

Emaleth laughs nervously.

You hear a distinct pop as Valo's portal closes up.

Emaleth says (in common), 'uh...crud'.

Valo makes a complicated-looking gesture.
Valo draws a funny looking rune on Greta.

(Emaleth wears all and adjusts her eq)

Emaleth snickers softly.
Emaleth says (in common), 'k, dressed n' stuff'.
Emaleth smiles happily.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Sorry bout that Cordir'.

You say, 'You need not do so on my account.'.

Rath says (in common), 'in the future,the baths are in the temples'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'I dont beleive she noticed'.

You say, 'I've seen a naked female before.'.

Rath says (in common), 'so you don't have to get Greta's office all wet'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'In the future, if ya leave, it won't bother ya'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'There's lots of rooms Rath'.

You say, 'Yes, but Palmer has the baths riddled with peepholes.'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'You came to us'.

Ephiny jumps back into the water, armor and all, oh well, hopefully it's rustproof.

Rath grins evilly.

Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.
Emaleth says (in common), 'It is'.

Rath says (in common), 'Palmer did no such thing'.
Rath sticks up for his favorite thief.

You say, 'yes, he did'.

Ephiny splashes Rath repeatedly.

Rath says (in common), 'this is an office not a bath'.
Rath scowls.

You say, 'Just as he drilled a hole in teh wall of my temple'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Treated with that Heavenly Contradiction rust proof oil stuff'.
Emaleth laughs.

Ephiny splashes you!
Ephiny splashes you!
Ephiny splashes you!

You say, 'Until we plugged it up with spiderwebs after he was named Anathema.'.

Emaleth grins happily at Ephiny.

Rath ,towering over the two in full adamantite plate,radiating pure malice,does not seem too harried by splashes of..water.

Ephiny grins mischieviously...and ducks under the water.

Emaleth giggles.
Ephiny tickles Emaleth.
Emaleth giggles at Ephiny's actions.
Ephiny tickles Emaleth.
Emaleth giggles at Ephiny's actions.
Ephiny tickles Emaleth.
Emaleth giggles at Ephiny's actions.
Ephiny tickles Emaleth.
Emaleth giggles at Ephiny's actions.
Ephiny tickles Emaleth.
Emaleth giggles at Ephiny's actions.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Muwahaha'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'BRAT!'.
Emaleth splashes you!

Ephiny giggles.

Emaleth splashes you!
Emaleth splashes you!
Emaleth grins happily.
Ephiny nods in recognition to Emaleth.

Rath says (in common), 'Palmer never committed a crime in his life'.
Rath says (in common), 'he's a saint'.

Emaleth laughs.

Rath says (in common), 'just ask him'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Er...you talkin' bout Palmer?'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'or someone else?'.

Rath says (in common), 'he was especially saintly as a Kindred'.

Ephiny lets the waters splash over her and then removes all again, forget the onlookers, let em have a show.

Cordir smiles sadly.

(Ephiny removes all)

Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.

You say, 'Palmer was one very dear to me.'.
You say, 'I regret him... next to .. virtually... no other... most, of all the Anathema.'.

Ephiny sighs happliy, lovely silky skin, mmmm...hot, steamy water.

Emaleth grins happily at Ephiny.

Emaleth says (in common), 'just a little piece of heaven right here.'.
Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.

Rath says (in common), 'oh what'd he do that was so bad'.

Ephiny wets her hair again and whips it around at Rath, splattering him with the scent of Heavenly Contradiction.

Emaleth laughs.

Ephiny says (in common), 'drop a mushroom'.

Ephiny nods.

Emaleth sacrifices a Magic Mushroom to Tripper.

Ephiny smiles happily.

Emaleth utters the words, 'create food'. A Magic Mushroom suddenly appears.
Emaleth gets a Magic Mushroom. Emaleth eats a Magic Mushroom.

You say, 'He stole from several Chosen, and was given repeated warnings.'.

Emaleth rubs her belly happily.
Emaleth says (in common), 'much better'.
Emaleth smiles happily.

You say, 'He chose to continue his theft.'.

Shazam says (in common), 'ye shall die emalteh have no fear'.

Rath shakes his head back and forth from beneath his plated visor,leaning down and flicking a bubble from his kneecap.

Ephiny gets a Magic Mushroom. (x2)
Ephiny eats a Magic Mushroom. (x2)

Ephiny grins happily.
Ephiny rests.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Ye shall die?'.

Shazam throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
Shazam leaves east.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Inventive'.
Emaleth smirks.
Emaleth says (in common), 'ya'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'He says that to everyojne'.

Emaleth snuggles up to Ephiny.

Ephiny says (in common), 'He says that to everyone'.

You ponder the question.

Ephiny says (in common), 'I said in Ye dreams'.

You say, 'I think he's said it to me.'.

Ephiny nods.

Rath says (in common), 'Cordir,there's no way Palmer did that'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Awww. Then I don't even get to feel special?'.
Emaleth laughs.

You say, 'Actually, he did.'.
You say, 'I spoke to him myself.'.
You say, 'And he told me that yes, he had stolen the items'.

Rath says (in common), 'he probably just found some things on the wayside'.

You say, 'but not to hold it against him.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm sure he was going to return them at the next oppurtunity'.

You say, 'He was given opportunity to do so'.
You say, 'And was invited to do so by My Shadow'.
You say, 'He declined.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I wonder if it's purely coincidental that both of your ordains were latin for "night"'.

Ephiny motions to you. ..

You shake your head.

Abe arrives from the east.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Aren't you hot?'.

Pez hugs Emaleth.

You say, 'not at all.'.
You say, 'Entirely on purpose.'.

Pez winks suggestively at you.
Pez leaves east.

Rath says (in common), 'ah ha'.
Rath says (in common), 'conspiracy'.

Rath glares around him.

You say, 'Abe, Rath is demanding an apology.'.

Rath says (in common), 'PEZ'.

Ephiny gasps in astonishment.

Emaleth braids a lock of Ephiny's hair.
Emaleth gasps in astonishment.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Cordir....not just a linen cloth'.

Emaleth snickers softly.

Abe says (in common), 'Rath can bite me.'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'special Ambassadoress'.

Emaleth laughs.

Ephiny nods at herself; she must be getting senile.

Emaleth says (in common), 'are you sure?'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'pity'.

You say, 'For now, Ephiny.'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I hear he's so old he's got no teeth'.

Rath says (in common), 'hurry up and level hot shot'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Id like to see Cordir in a linien cloth...only'.

Emaleth beams a smile at Abe.

You say, 'But probably not much longer.'.
You ponder the question.

Emaleth grins happily.

You say, 'You should have seen me in the old days cleaning Madman's office.'.

Rath says (in common), 'ephiny..'.

Ephiny sancs up waiting for the rift.

Emaleth winks at Ephiny.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Oooh'.

Rath says (in common), 'french maids'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Cute little maid?'.
Emaleth smiles happily.

Rath says (in common), 'bah'.

You say, 'He had me rather tarted up in a french maid's outfit and high heels.'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Ah yes, Bliss's current maid outfit'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Ya, that'd suit ya'.

Ephiny nods in recognition to you.

You shake your head.

Emaleth says (in common), 'You always were a cute one'.

You say, 'No, it really didn't.'.
You say, 'I looked entirely ridiculous.'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Even if a little too cool colored'.
Emaleth smiles at you.

Ephiny says (in common), 'I think Cordir...all in black leather, now that sounds right'.

Emaleth laughs.

You shake your head.

Ephiny says (in common), 'She IS rather domineering '.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I don't think so'.

You say, 'Good gods, no.'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'perhaps white'.

Rath says (in common), 'Ephiny if you don't stop coming onto immortals..so help me'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'and suede'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'not leather'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'too...'.
Emaleth sits down and thinks deeply.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Too stiff'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'suede....not good...too.soft'.

Cordir isn't the Dominant type.

Emaleth laughs.

Rath rolls his eyes.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Rath, is she complainin.

You say, 'I'm occaisionally bossy, bitchy, or commanding.'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Cordir is rather 'in charge' attitude wise'.

You say, 'But I'm not a dominant.'.

Ephiny nods.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Insult the gal, defend the gal....'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm not defending her'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'make up yer mind man'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm defending immortals'.

Emaleth baps Rath on the side of the head.

Ephiny says (in common), 'very well then, white silk and lace tied to a bed?'.

You cough.

Ephiny says (in common), 'Wonder what Syla would think'.

You say, 'Lets change this subject, shall we?'.

Emaleth snickers softly.

Rath says (in common), 'thank GOD'.
Rath shivers uncomfortably.

Cordir glances at Abe and blushes slightly.

Emaleth grins happily.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Sorry, girls 'n' their clothes'.
Emaleth laughs.

Ephiny laughs.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Hows the Ambassador Schtick?'.

Ephiny nods in recognition to Emaleth.
Ephiny says (in common), 'Forget clothes!'.
Emaleth grins happily at Ephiny.
Emaleth raises an eyebrow at Ephiny.

Ephiny says (in common), 'We dont need them anyhow'.

You say, '32 1/2 hours done'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Agreed'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Oooh'.

You say, 'in 2.5 days'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'not bad at all'.

You say, 'well, 3.'.
You say, 'make it 3 days.'.

Emaleth nods in recognition to you.
Emaleth says (in common), 'avg is impressive'.

WHO
34 players.
Elf [ Ma:27 Wa:22 ] Tirant.
Hum [ Cl:10 ] Sheldon, Wisdom's little Cleric
Elf [ Ma: 2 ] Elrond the Elf
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Craige the Destroyer, Grand Sentinel of the Conclave
Hel [ Ra:11 Cl:16 ] Phantom Rotherm. -=AYALA=-
Hum [ Ma:14 Wa:13 ] Zog Zog is cute and lovable. He is Zog Zog
Hum [ Cl:28 Wa:30 ] Majere, Intercessor of the Coven
Dwa [ Cl:11 ] Drorin the Dwarf
Elf [ Th:29 Cl:30 Ra:30 ] Myronides Starym is just so darn cool.
Hum [ Ma:11 ] Rhaen Xaryth is again the mad snowballing *Tiger*
Elf [ Th:19 Ra:30 Ma:30 ] Valo Yagyu, Warden of the Black Conclave
Hel [ Ma:12 ] Ouchohm humming the lost chord
Hum [ Ra:18 Ma:20 ] Belsambar Lin Bloodstar: Floating Tiger! *Karalyn*
Hum [ Ma: 1 Ra:14 ] Khonsu As seen on T.V. *Wisdom*
Hum [ Cl:26 Wa:24 ] Paython, Grand Pimp of the PrU. Coven
Gia [ Sh:20 Wa:11 ] Xercedial.
Elf [ Ma:20 Ra:20 Th:17 ] Natilena Squishy Mage of Virtue-Will ID for food
Elf [ Wa: 7 Cl:11 ] Zaaris Tal'shyre, silverwind spellsinger
Hel [ Wa:16 Ma:18 ] Kirth Wisdom is the best weapon.
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Rath, Wicked Judge of the Black Conclave
Dwa [ Ambassador ] Athorne, Helper to all.
Hum [ Wa:22 Cl:22 ] Emaleth sings Godsmack, Whatever. *Tiger/Amazon*
Dwa [ Cl: 2 ] Pheonix the Dwarf
Hel [ Wa:24 Cl:30 ] Ephiny is looking for Nayr. *Tiger* G4
Elf [ Ma:13 Ra:15 ] Blystur Tiger reborn
Dwa [ Sh: 9 ] Pez, Butane Baron!
Hum [ Ma:11 Ra: 9 ] Ebonie the Patient. *Fate*
Hel [ Wa:30 Th:23 Ma:30 ] Shazam, Nefarious Ninja of the Black Conclave
Dwa [ Wa:19 Cl:21 ] Wylin, Teacher of Wisdom, (You better get some!)
Hum [ Ambassador ] Cordir, penitent weaver, teacher of the young
Hel [ Th:18 ] Silence is a despised darkling, will someone love me?
Hel [ Cl:18 Wa:16 ] Kaleyah Wraithverge Salemonte, Dark Specter *dt* twin
Hel [ Th:24 Wa:29 Ma:26 ] BelGarion, (Child of Light)
Hum [ Cl:15 Ra:13 ] Abe: G2 in training. (Tiger) 13B(F)20/11B20

Emaleth kisses Ephiny.

Ephiny smiles happily.
Ephiny says (in common), 'And they'd look GOOD on you'.

Emaleth struts proudly.

Ephiny tries patiently to untangle Emaleth's hair.

Rath says (in common), 'my friggin maul in the side of your empty head would look great Ephiny'.

Emaleth swims through the water happily, landing on Ephiny's lap.

You ponder the question.
You say, 'that was decidedly antisocial.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I am decidedly antisocial'.

Ephiny wraps her arms around Emaleth and pulls her close.

You ponder the question.

Emaleth smirks.

Ephiny bounces Emaleth on her knee.

Emaleth says (in common), 'Anything new to share?'.
Emaleth says (in common), 'other than delayed pathecic threats?'.

Ephiny says (in common), 'I shall be right back'.
Ephiny kisses Emaleth.
Ephiny leaves east.

Emaleth rests.
Emaleth shakes her head.

Rath says (in common), 'they aren't pathetic when I can back them up'.
Rath says (in common), 'but hm'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'You're not changin' much are ya Rath'.

Rath says (in common), 'I never do'.

Emaleth laughs.

Rath says (in common), 'I want to talk more about neutrality'.

Cordir looks wistful when she remembers quite a different Rath.

Rath says (in common), 'Cordir is here,a supposed well informed proponent of it'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'I don't know anything about it'.

Rath says (in common), 'bah,what different Rath'.

You say, 'Rath, I know its your job to be sardonic.'.
You say, 'But keep a civil tongue.'.

Emaleth laughs.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Im not sure he can!'.

Rath says (in common), 'good one'.
Rath rolls his eyes.

You say, 'Enjoy your chat, folks.'.

Emaleth says (in common), 'When I want your opinion, Rath, sweets, I'll give it to ya'.
Emaleth grins happily at you.
Emaleth says (in common), 'Take care babe'.

Rath says (in common), 'bah,leaving?'.

You say, 'I'm no longer interested in exposing myself to bickering.'.

Emaleth nods in recognition to you.

Rath says (in common), 'I wanted to poke your brain'.

You say, 'If you'd like to have a conversation'.

Rath scowls.

Emaleth swims around the pool.

Rath says (in common), 'I WAS '.
Rath says (in common), 'I was being nice'.

You say, 'rather than a contest to see whose naughty bits are bigger'.

Emaleth hushes up for a moment.

You say, 'and tossing in sharp comments like crutons on a salad'.

Belsambar arrives from the east.

You say, 'Then we'll talk.'.

Rath says (in common), 'fine'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'It's a Cordir!'.

You gasp in astonishment.

Belsambar hugs you.

You say, 'yes, it is.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'll be Mr. Rogers for you Cordir'.

Emaleth grins happily at Belsambar.

Ephiny arrives from the east.
Ephiny smiles happily.

You thank Rath heartily.

Emaleth beams a smile at Ephiny.
Ephiny says (in common), 'Now it is VERY crowded'.

Cordir extricates herself from Belsambar's grasp.

Rath says (in common), 'so here's my quandry'.

The Offices of the Midgaard Daily News
[Exits: east]
The hustle and bustle of the news agency is apparent as people scurry
about posting stories from around the world. Reports of great adventures,
heroic conquests, and the odd sad demise make up the fodder these folks
seek out to print each day's edition of the news. Over in the corner you
see the classifieds' desk, the place where a mere mortal can try and
place an ad for inclusion in the next edition. The line there is long
causing you to wonder if your ad is important enough to spend the time
and money that it takes to post it.
(Light Blue Aura) Ephiny is here.
(Invis) (Light Blue Aura) Belsambar is here.
(White Aura) The newsboy stands here selling newspapers.
(Invis) (Dark Red Aura) Valo is here.
Drorin is here.
(Dark Red Aura) Rath is resting here.
(Light Blue Aura) Emaleth is resting here.
(White Aura) Greta waits for you to place your advertisement.

Rath says (in common), 'I was talking to Tranquility'.

Cordir arches an eyebrow inquisitively.

Rath says (in common), 'that bird who is attatched to that gnome's hip'.

You say, 'And how fared My Handmaiden when you saw her last?'.

Rath says (in common), 'and we were discussing good,evil,and neutral'.

You say, 'I've not seen her in some days.'.

Rath says (in common), 'she was alright'.
Rath says (in common), 'she had plenty of nice things to say to me'.

Cordir arches an eyebrow inquisitively.
You say, 'Tranquility is bound by an oath that requires her to speak the truth, or not at all.'.
You say, 'Sometimes, her silences speak more than paragraphs.'.

Rath says (in common), 'so you're saying there arent any nice things about me?'.

You say, 'No, I did not say that. You said she spoke nice things of you.'.

Rath says (in common), 'yep'.

You say, 'Therefore, if she said them, they must be true.'.

Rath says (in common), 'she was pretty nice for her'.

You say, 'But what has this to do with Neutrality?'.

Rath says (in common), 'well'.

Rath says (in common), 'I said I didn't like neutrals'.

You say, 'And are we truly discussing Neutrality, or is it really Sentry?'.

Rath says (in common), 'well'.

Rath says (in common), 'rephrase'.
Rath says (in common), 'the idea of neutrality'.
Rath says (in common), 'neutrals I judge individually'.
Rath says (in common), 'we're discussing all of neutrality'.
Rath says (in common), 'the idea of not taking a side'.

You say, 'so the ancient Nashite "Neutrals" ?'.

Emaleth puts another pretty face frmaing braid in Ephiny's hair.

You say, 'as well as the present day Chosen..'.
You say, 'and Rhina's Naturites?'.

Emaleth nods in recognition to Ephiny.

Emaleth leaves east.
Ephiny leaves east.

Rath says (in common), 'let me set up the conversation by prefacing my belief'.
Rath says (in common), 'there are three powers'.
Rath says (in common), 'good,and evil'.
Rath says (in common), 'perpetually in a battle'.
Rath says (in common), 'then there is Lord Nash,who is above both'.
Rath says (in common), 'for the sake of this conversation'.
Rath says (in common), 'we don't talk about Lord Nash,since I never get anywhere with that'.
Rath says (in common), 'cause all people do is say "I can't see him so he can't be there"'.
Rath says (in common), 'so the world is pretty much good vs evil'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I think he exists...'.

Rath says (in common), 'and I believe that goods and evils both serve their cause..'.

You say, 'You're speaking to a Nashite.'.

Rath says (in common), 'in the greater battles'.
Rath says (in common), 'you are a heretic'.

You say, 'But I am still a Nashite.'.

Rath says (in common), 'no'.

You say, 'In fact...'.

Rath says (in common), 'you are not'.
Rath says (in common), 'you may believe in Lord Nash'.

You say, 'The only thing that prevented me from being "officially Nashite" was my husband'.

Rath says (in common), 'but you have been excommunicated'.

You say, 'He is gone, and our marraige dissolved.'.
You say, 'Thus....'.
You say, 'I am not a Nashite, then, but rather a devotee of Nashism.'.

Rath says (in common), 'maybe'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's a whole nother horse'.

Valo says (in common), 'a religion was betrayed for a marraige... how simpley wrong is that'.

You say, 'Well, no one mentioned it until the ceremony that I'd be excommunicated.'.

Rath says (in common), 'but I was saying goods and evils serve a purpose larger then themselves'.

Emaleth tells you (in common), '*smile* Sorry about bein' a pest btw.'.

You say, 'It was rather of a surprise.'.

Rath says (in common), 'and therefore are somewhat meritorious,regardless of action'.

You tell Emaleth, 'You're fine, dear, as always.'.

Rath nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'sorry'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'is the flesh more important then the faith though?'.

You say, 'is the soul more important than the heart? I believe them one and the same, inextricably linked.'.

Rath says (in common), 'alright'.

You say, 'It was surely Nash's will that I love Deamhan and go through the trials associated with excommunication to hone my faith.'.

Rath says (in common), 'so it breaks down to taking one soul over your God'.
Rath says (in common), 'how could it be when his dictates spell otherwise'.
Rath says (in common), 'not to marry outside of the Faith'.

You say, 'His then-pope's words. '.
You say, 'Not Nash's.'.

Rath says (in common), 'which pope'.
Rath says (in common), 'the first or second'.

You say, 'For even Lord Sirak said that marrying Deamhan was no sin.'.

You say, 'Molo.'.

Rath says (in common), 'the second'.

You shrug.
You say, 'But again...'.
You say, 'this is rather off the topic proposed.'.
You say, 'What of Neutrality do you wish to discuss?'.

Rath says (in common), 'another day'.
Rath says (in common), 'well,like I was saying'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is the ever present battle'.

You nod.

Rath says (in common), 'of epic proportions,between good and evil'.

You nod.

You say, 'thus far, we are in agreement.'.

Rath says (in common), 'neutrals are spiritually selfish because they will not serve either side in the fight.They are MATERIALISTICALLY NOT SELFISH for they aid'.
Rath says (in common), 'others'.
Rath says (in common), 'but one could argue they do this for their image'.
Rath says (in common), 'they are fence sitters'.
Rath says (in common), 'who refuse to take a side...which is selfish'.
Rath says (in common), 'they care more about themselves then the greater cause'.

You ponder the question.
You say, 'May I address that point?'.

Rath says (in common), 'let me say one more quick thing'.
Rath says (in common), 'then the floor is yours'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is documentation throughout the world'.
Rath says (in common), 'throughout millenia'.
Rath says (in common), 'of good and evil'.
Rath says (in common), 'the bible'.
Rath says (in common), 'the qu'ran'.

You say, 'wait,'.

Rath says (in common), 'the bah'ha'gaza'.

You say, 'you're taking it out of game'.

Rath scowls.
Rath says (in common), 'why can't I'.

You say, 'keep it in game entirely'.
You say, 'or take it out of game entirely'.

You say, 'one or the other'.

Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'how about we discuss both'.
Rath says (in common), 'one at a time'.
Rath says (in common), 'first,go ahead and address the MUD issue'.

Rath says (in common), 'floor's yours'.

Cordir starts to object, but then shrugs philosophically, muttering, what the hell, I've got to be here for three more hours tonight anyway...

Rath pushes the fat old woman Greta out of her seat and drops his sizeable bulk into it,listening to Cordir.

You say, 'I believe that all souls see through the eyes of their own experiences. Yours is tainted with cruelty and tragedy. Thus, you see life that way. '.
You say, 'You see neutrals as 'fence sitters' and are offended by what you see as unwillingness to commit'.

Rath nods in recognition to you.

You say, 'However, others see them as the battle ground itself.'.
You say, 'Without it, the battle could not ensue.'.
You say, 'Both sides are succored by the Neutrals.'.
You say, 'Both are hunted by them.'.
You say, 'Both are befriended by them.'.
You say, 'They are the respite in the greater battle'.
You say, 'As every combat has an ebb and flow.'.

Rath nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'yes'.

You say, 'Now..'.
You say, 'addressing OUT of game'.
You say, 'Using myself as an example'.
You say, 'I made the Chosen Neutral because I wanted to abide by the HELP ALIGNMENT code'.

You say, 'Realistically, we're about as Blue as Blue can be'.
You say, 'But... it states that Blues aren't supposed to help Reds'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'out of game, 'Good' hasn't always been good'.

You say, 'and the essential concept of the Chosen was that they help everyone.'.
You say, 'well, that takes you into the murky world of defining good and evil.'.

Belsambar nods.

You say, 'which I am not willing to go into'.

You say, 'becuase it is another intrinsic concept that most simply CANNOT agree upon.'.
You say, 'I'm simply going by TYNIANs definitions'.
You say, 'and that's why I chose Neutral.'.
You say, 'So that our 'mission statement' would be within the rules.'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I just wish to say that the reason I don't bad mouth Nashism and the Conclave too much, is I see them as simply Christianity'.
Belsambar says (in common), 'during the middle ages'.

You nod.

Volkov smirks at Belsambar's saying.

You say, '"Convert or die"'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'the difference is the game has auras'.

You say, '"Our god is above your god and all other gods"'.
You say, 'There are a lot of parallels.'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'and they fit in switched'.
Belsambar says (in common), 'It's one of the things that drew me to the game...'.

Rath says (in common), 'see'.
Rath says (in common), 'this is bad though'.

Cordir arches an eyebrow inquisitively.

Rath says (in common), 'because you said you're essentially a blue following who won't fight'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'at least here though, I can't be burned at the stake for being an'heretic'.

Rath says (in common), 'that makes you a bunch of cowards'.
Rath says (in common), 'albeit nice cowards'.
Rath frowns.

You say, 'only by the rose colored glasses you wear.'.

Rath says (in common), 'let me rephrase'.

Rath says (in common), 'some of you must fight'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Cowards in what sense Rath? I have watched Noctus and other fate members do things and go places Maldo doesn't want to try'.

Rath says (in common), 'I seriously doubt that Belsambar'.
Rath says (in common), 'but..'.

You say, 'We are blues who fight when we are forced to fight, who prefer to spend our energies tending those who are waylayed by the great war'.
You say, 'or too young to be soldiers in it.'.

Rath says (in common), 'think about it'.
Rath says (in common), 'if there is an ongoing battle'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's alot of people who are copping out of the draft'.

You say, 'We are the medics between the lines, tending to the fallen.'.
You say, 'We're the American red cross.'.

Rath sits down and thinks deeply.

You say, 'to do our job, we CANNOT take sides.'.

Rath says (in common), 'you are'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'THERE is an analogy'.

Rath says (in common), 'but to serve Good'.
Rath says (in common), 'well I mean'.
Rath says (in common), 'you're just being counterproductive'.
Rath says (in common), 'by helping evils'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Medics are neutral in battle...by code and hippocratic oath, do you deem doctors to be counterproductive in battle?'.

Rath says (in common), 'Belsambar'.
Rath says (in common), 'I guarantee you American doctors didn't patch up Nazi's in WW2'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'there are few doctors who care what side you're on...if you are hurt, they try to fix you.'.

Rath says (in common), 'we killed them'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Oh?'.

Rath says (in common), 'alot'.
Rath says (in common), 'the soldiers died'.
Rath says (in common), 'civilians are different'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Check the history books Rath. There are MANY accounts of hurt people being aided by the meds on BOTH sides'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm pretty damn good on history'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'the difference is, the Nazi's didn't always follow thorugh'.

Rath says (in common), 'the casualty rate for nazi's behind enemy lines in world war 2 east of the champagne in 1944 was over 80 percent'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'But then agian, they never too a hippocratic oath either'.

Rath says (in common), 'that's quoted from Ropp's work'.
Rath says (in common), 'look it up if you want'.

Belsambar shrugs.
Belsambar says (in common), 'That was the Nazi's'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'the Allies treated all men equally in the hospital'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's also a real world example'.
Rath says (in common), 'that we said we wouldn't use'.

Rath says (in common), 'so this is my point Cordir'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is no Neutral force'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is a greater good'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is a greater evil'.
Rath says (in common), 'there is no greater neutral'.

You ponder the question.

Rath says (in common), 'neutrality is a concieved ground'.

Cordir was a greater Neutral Power.
You snicker softly.

Rath says (in common), 'oh poo :P'.
Rath says (in common), 'not that'.

You say, 'Lemme answer you this way.'.

Rath says (in common), 'therefore,neutrals serve themselves rather then a greater "cause"'.
Rath says (in common), 'and are selfish spiritually'.

You say, 'In your perception.'.
You say, 'I _double dog dare you_ to start a character for the Chosen.'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'hrm...not good...'.

Rath laughs.
Rath says (in common), 'why'.

You say, 'I think you'll find them the absolute most _self-less_ bunch on the mud.'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'No,m I just noticed I'm out of recalls :P\'.

You say, 'They are constantly dropping their own tasks and helping others.'.
You say, 'giving of their own reserves to help strangers.'.

Rath says (in common), 'spiritually'.
Rath says (in common), 'not material'.

You say, 'facing danger from YOU GUYS repeatedly, to help others.'.

Rath says (in common), 'spiritually meaning they don't serve a greater power other then themselves and their own whims'.

You say, 'they serve ME. I'm their 'higher power.

Rath says (in common), 'no no,you're a single entity'.

You say, 'I give them their spiritual direction.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I mean like a collective "sense" of good'.
Rath says (in common), 'or a collective "sense" of evil'.

You say, 'Rather than an ambigious 'concept', they serve a very specific set of goals '.

Rath says (in common), 'that's because it's fabricated'.

You ponder the question.

You say, 'its a lot clearer than "Kill the other guys"'.

Rath says (in common), 'good and evil are ambiguous because they are absolutes'.

You say, 'which is what good and evil are '.

Rath rolls his eyes.

Rath says (in common), 'that's about as good as me saying neutrals are fence sitters'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Good and evil is always relative'.

Rath says (in common), 'let's go to the real world now'.

You say, 'well there ya go'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'what is considered good by some is considered to be evil by others'.
Belsambar says (in common), 'and vice versa'.

Rath says (in common), 'cite me one text that creates a sense of "neutrality" '.

Belsambar says (in common), 'gimme a sec....been a long time since I've talked theology'.

You say, 'medic.'.
You say, 'Heck, the priests that would wander the battlefields, giving succor to any fallen.'.

Rath says (in common), 'this is philosophy'.

You say, 'last rites, etc.'.
You shrug.

Rath says (in common), 'but we can get into theology if you want'.

Belsambar shrugs.

Rath says (in common), 'what about that?that's good'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'same difference to me...I run into brick walls whenever I do talk because most are not as open-minded as I'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Hrm...I'm trying to actually remember any of the Wiccan texts...there aren't that many you can cite'.

Rath says (in common), 'although I don't really agree with Wiccans,I'd take it as a viable reference'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'mostly because they were destroyed by the romans and later the catholics...'.

Cordir is, of course, wiccan.
You grin mischievously.

Belsambar throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

Rath says (in common), 'yeah,and Tranquility is too'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I'm as close as you can get without actually being one'.

Rath says (in common), 'she called me a "bearded man with a bitch complex" worshipper'.
Rath says (in common), 'ie a christian'.

Cordir arches an eyebrow inquisitively.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I have no religeon, but most of the rites and rituals..."fit" me...'.

Rath says (in common), 'I was about to knock her flat'.

You say, 'I said no such thing'.

Rath says (in common), 'Tranquility said that '.

Belsambar says (in common), 'that would be RL I'm guessing...'.

Rath says (in common), 'no,it was on the mud'.
Rath says (in common), 'I was gonna hit my monitor'.

Belsambar snickers softly.

Rath says (in common), 'not that I'm a traditional christian'.
Rath says (in common), 'but '.

Belsambar says (in common), 'there's narrow mindedness on both sides'.

Rath says (in common), 'there is no text to my knowledge that defines a "sense" of neutrality in the world like many others define good and evil'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'In some ways, I am neutral in that I do not follow any religeon'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I'm just glad I don't go to a catholic school...in theology class I'd get yelled at for trying to convert people'.

Rath says (in common), 'I went to a catholic school'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'simply because I try to get people to look at the other side'.

Rath says (in common), 'I am decidedly not catholic'.
Rath says (in common), 'my father was a methodist minister'.
Rath says (in common), 'one of my professors is a Muslum'.
Rath says (in common), 'I have read alot about religions'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'ok, maybe it's just the schools around here'.

Rath says (in common), 'I hope Cordir is getting texts'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'm curious'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I live in an area that tends to be either "evil"-ish, or puritanic'.

You say, 'no, I'm not.'.

Rath says (in common), 'aw shoot'.

You say, 'I'm simply staying out of what appears to be a debate between you two'.

Rath says (in common), 'well jump in,lets hear what you think'.

You say, 'I don't like religious debates.'.
You say, 'They get very nasty very quickly.'.

Clue nods.

Rath says (in common), 'yeah'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'Feh...debates...I hate debates...why do I always end up in one?\'.

Rath says (in common), 'I love them'.

You say, 'And since I got my ass retired for getting emotional and acting without thinking'.
You say, 'I'm trying really really hard not to get emotionally worked up about this game.'.
You smile happily.

Belsambar snickers softly.

Rath says (in common), 'alright then-neutrality'.
Rath says (in common), 'give me a real world piece of literature that creates a sense of it'.

You say, '"The Fifth Sacred Thing" by Starhawk'.

Rath says (in common), 'the what'.

Belsambar grumbles.

Rath says (in common), 'give me something that people have heard of'.

You say, '"The Fifth Sacred Thing" by Starhawk'.
You say, 'Starhawk is the equivilent of a billy graham with class for pagans'.
You say, 'You may not have heard of her, but most wiccans have'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'ooh...Cordir, you have to send me titles, and isbns'.
Belsambar grins happily.

Rath says (in common), 'oh'.
Rath says (in common), 'so this is a famous Wiccan'.

You say, 'That book defines and exemplifies my spiritual and ethical beliefs.'.

Rath says (in common), 'so it's your Bible'.
Rath says (in common), 'interesting'.

You say, 'its a work of fiction'.

Rath raises an eyebrow.
Rath says (in common), 'so?'.
Rath says (in common), 'it can still be your bible if it isn't true'.
Rath says (in common), 'as long as it describes your beliefs'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'yeah...like the necronomicon is a thing of fiction...'.
Belsambar suddenly realizes his mistake and slaps himself.

You say, 'the necronomicon is silly'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I just relized one of my friends still has my copy of that'.

Rath says (in common), 'talk more about this book by starhawk'.

You say, 'Read it yourself.'.
You say, 'but I hope you're not homophobic.'.

Belsambar nods.

Rath says (in common), 'yeah,I am'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'nope...junk anyway'.

Rath says (in common), 'we're all homophobic bible thumping fundamentalists'.

You say, 'no, I'm not making that assumption, Rath.'.
You say, 'I was stating that if you were going to read the book, I hoped you were not.'.
You say, 'I did not say, "Gosh, you evil christian person, I bet you're homophobic and will hate this bookk!"'.
You say, 'so don't imply that I did'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm just banking off of what Tranquility said earlier'.

You say, 'I'm not Ty.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I wasa just being sarcastic'.
Rath says (in common), 'so you can't summarize your beliefs for me?'.

You say, 'I believe that there are five sacred things.'.
You say, 'Earth, air, fire, water, and the fifth, which is spirit.'.
You say, 'I believe that, so long as it harms none, that people should do as they wish. The emphasis on "harming none"'.
You say, 'I believe in a spiritual wheel of life, in which rebirth occours.'.

Rath says (in common), 'reincarnation'.
Rath says (in common), 'so essentially there is no good and evil in your world?'.

Belsambar rolls his eyes.

You say, 'sure there is'.

Rath sits down and thinks deeply.

Belsambar throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

Rath says (in common), 'so the goods are the people who don't harm'.
Rath says (in common), 'and the evils are the ones who do'.

You shrug.
You say, 'by your definitions, sure'.

Rath says (in common), 'by your definitions,where is the good and the evil?'.

You say, 'I believe that every spirit has the right to exist with certain basic freedoms.'.
You say, 'That does not mean that it is essentially 'good.
You say, 'I believe that we simply exist in life, and can choose to do each action.'.

Rath says (in common), 'but you said there is good and evil in your world'.
Rath says (in common), 'I am asking what they are?'.
Rath says (in common), 'I am not trying to be honery,I am tyring to understand'.

You say, 'Cruelty without purpose is evil.'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'good and evil are personal definitions'.

You say, 'Hurt without purpose is evil.'.

You nod in recognition to her.
You say, 'exactly'.

Rath says (in common), 'what's cruelty with purpose?'.

You say, 'The severing of a relationships'.
You say, 'The decisions of life and death'.
You say, 'one twin can live, one twin must die - pick one'.
You say, 'a cruel choice.. but with neccessity.'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'to, say, Genghis Kahn ... Hitler would likely be "good"'.

Rath says (in common), 'Khan would hate him'.
Rath says (in common), 'so cruelty with choice is not evil?'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'putting that aside, working on beliefs and actions'.

You say, 'I believe that intent is everything.'.
You say, 'There isn't a single commandment of the ten I would not break.'.
You say, 'It all depends on the ethics of the situation'.
You say, 'I don't believe in 'absolutes.

Rath says (in common), 'well I guess that's dumb if you don't believe in the christian idea of marriage'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.

Rath says (in common), 'sure you can talk about the extremes of everything'.
Rath says (in common), 'steal because you're gonna die of hunger..kill because you are about to..'.

You nod.

You say, 'adultery is defined as sex outside the bonds of marriage.'.
You say, 'however, if all parties are consenting, then I don't think its a sin.'.

Rath says (in common), 'you're breaking a promise'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'actually, I have no problem of aldultury...but I also belive in polygamy'.

Rath says (in common), 'you're ditching someone you love'.
Rath says (in common), 'or swore you would love'.
Rath says (in common), 'better not talk about that'.

You say, 'not true, Rath'.

Rath says (in common), 'too personal'.

Rath says (in common), 'you can justify greed/'.

You say, 'There isn't a commandment against greed.'.

You say, 'there's a commandment against 'coveting.

Xavier says (in drow), 'Im greedy........'.
Xavier smiles happily.

You nod in recognition to him.
Cordir waggles her finger reprovingly at Xavier.
You giggle.
Xavier flogs you! OUCH! You'd better not do that again!
Xavier grins mischievously.

Rath says (in common), 'which is greed'.

You say, 'Hey! no flogging the girls.'.

Rath says (in common), 'jealousy and greed are two snakes on the same staff'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'fems are meant to be...'.
Belsambar hugs you.
Belsambar says (in common), 'not flogged'.
Belsambar misses being a marionette.

Rath says (in common), 'well that is an interesting belief Cordir..so who are the neutrals in your world'.

You say, 'Neutrality isn't defined in the faith, Rath. You keep puting your labels on things.'.
You say, 'When others simply don't have them.'.

Rath says (in common), 'the whole world is labeled'.
Rath says (in common), 'otherwise we can't talk about anything cordir'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's the nature of language'.
Rath says (in common), 'you can't just say it exists and we can't define it'.

You ponder the question.
You say, 'I'm not going to argue with you, Rath.'.
You say, 'I know what I believe.'.

Rath says (in common), 'can you at least point out to me who Neutrals are in Starhawk's book'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'm trying to work with you here and I'm just getting a "I believe this,no explanations"'.

You say, 'Read the book.'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'she already answered that ... read it and decide for yourself'.

Rath rolls his eyes.
Rath says (in common), 'bah'.
Rath says (in common), 'no one will talk with me'.

You say, 'I'm not going to trot out my entire belief system - which is very intensely personal - for your amusement.'.
You say, 'You're very, very difficult to talk to'.

Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'why?'.

You say, 'While we've been talking, I've had no less than four people give me tells about how hard you are to talk to'.
You say, 'And that they're surprised I'm not screaming more.'.

Belsambar snickers with you about your shared secret.

You shrug.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm logical,I'm thorough'.
Rath says (in common), 'people don't like that,big friggin deal'.

Belsambar rolls his eyes.

You say, 'You're stubborn. Your single minded. You don't see the point of view of others.'.
You say, 'You don't accept their evidence AS evidence.'.

Rath says (in common), 'oh contrare'.
Rath says (in common), 'I see from the point of view of others VERY well.That's why I argue so much'.

You say, 'You are often snide or cutting, and your word choice is vaguely insulting some times.'.
You shrug.

Clue thinks the phrase is "au contraire"...

Rath says (in common), 'you've given me evidence'.
Rath says (in common), 'and when I asked about it,you just said read it'.
Rath says (in common), 'Cordir'.
Rath says (in common), 'you often insult people vaguely too'.
Rath says (in common), 'we ride the same boat'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'well...it's probly something that can best be understood not by quoting...'.

You say, 'because I'm not willing to further discuss the specifics of what is holy to me.'.
You nod in recognition to him.
You say, 'Yep.'.
You say, 'I tend to give when I get.'.

Rath says (in common), 'nah'.
Rath says (in common), 'we're both just mean'.

You ponder the question.

Rath says (in common), 'or maybe I'm meaner'.

You say, 'I would agree to that last point.'.

Rath says (in common), 'I'm stubburn and opinionated.You got that right'.
Rath says (in common), 'but I'm THOROUGH'.
Rath says (in common), 'I BACK up what I believe in'.
Rath says (in common), 'and I do it well'.

Xavier says (in drow), 'Also Evil Rath, thats very important'.

Rath says (in common), 'and I'm not humble :P'.

You say, 'tenacious, pig=headed, stubborn and dense as a brick wall....'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I back up what I believe...I just get tired of beating on titanum skulls like yours'.

Rath rolls his eyes.
Rath says (in common), 'dense?'.

Rath says (in common), 'you've got to be kidding me'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'if you were "thorough" you would read the book so you can both discuss it from the same ground'.

Rath says (in common), 'you're accusing me of being stupid'.

You say, 'But once a thought gets in, it does not get out.'.
You say, 'which is what i mean by 'dense'. not stupid'.

Rath says (in common), 'considering I'm working on multivariable calculus and Kant right now,I don't have the time to read Starhawk Clue'.
Rath says (in common), 'dense denotes stupidity :P'.

Clue says (in old-common), 'does not'.

You say, 'not in new england colloquial.'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I simply thing most people have selective minds. They believe only what they want to believe'.

Rath says (in common), 'if someone is "dense" they cannot understand something'.
Rath says (in common), 'lack of comprehension=lower intelligence'.

You say, 'or choose not to.'.

Rath says (in common), 'that's stubburness'.
Rath says (in common), 'which you already mentioned'.

Belsambar says (in common), 'I particularly strive to believe everything, the result is some call me gullible, superstitious, and naive'.

You smile happily.

Clue says (in old-common), 'dense is more stubborn than stupid'.

Rath says (in common), 'but I am all these things'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's what makes me,me'.

You say, 'I have some bamboo shoots to drive under my fingernails, now..'.
You say, 'so I'll be stepping out of this conversation now.'.

Rath snickers softly.

You smile happily.

Belsambar says (in common), 'if only people knoew how NOT naive I am...'.

You wave.
(Cordir leaves the room)