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Cordir: cleared to archive, answered Rath's question

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cleared to archive, answered Rath's question

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	~~Hey, Cordir, nice to "see" you. :-)~~ [[User:~~Tynian\|Tynian~~]]		( [[User talk:Cordir/Archive]] )
	~~:* Nice to be able to come and visit. I'm not really familiar with Wikis, but I'll see what I can't contribute... Thank you for the warm welcome! :~~) ~~[[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	~~Wow~~, ~~lots of material! Thanks for getting all of this posted. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 13:21, 15 January~~ 2011 ~~(MST)~~		April 24, 2011: Cleared Talk to Archive.<BR>
	:* My pleasure. Seemed a waste not to ~~get it posted somewhere, since I've hoarded it all these years..~~. ~~;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	Well, I'm not sure how much good it's doing to look through all this stuff. It just makes me sad, everyone that I knew that have moved on. I guess there's a dark side to history. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 17:07, 17 January 2011 (MST)		* Hi Cordir - What do you think of implementing some sort of entry requirements for the "People" page? [[User:Rath\|Rath]]
	:* I guess I look at it like this: The richness of TFC's history is something to be celebrated: whether it happened yesterday or ten years ago. Yes, many have moved on.. but still others find it, and some of our oldest players are still visiting regularly. :) And besides - this wiki is going to give me an excuse to bug some old friends and nudge them this way to update stuff. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]		** I'm going to copy this over to the Discussion for the People page so we can get more feedback. As for my opinion: I'll be honest, I don't much like the idea. Here's why: Who is to say who is important and who isn't? If we say, 'only level 40s' ... well, I would never have made it as a mortal. Nor would [[Nyx]]. Or [[Pez]]. Or [[Typhon]]. Or a large number of other really awesome, notable, historical folks. I think if someone wants to put in the work to create a page, then no matter who the subject is, then great! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 14:01, 24 April 2011 (MDT)

	Hi Cordir - What do you think of implementing some sort of entry requirements for the "People" page? [[User:Rath\|Rath]]

	~~===2.x stuff===~~
	There's no easy way to find out the original creation date for a 2.x character, since we didn't start keeping track of it until 3.0. Backups from the 2.x era are lost, sadly enough. Drive space was at a premium back then. I think I may have copied some backups off to tape... only I have not been able to successfully read those tapes. The only readable backup I have found was the one right before version 3 went live, which is not helpful to your needs.[[User:Tynian\|Tynian]]

	:* ~~: Aw, drat. :( Thanks, though. :)~~

	~~== Quiller ==~~

	Quiller was a Demigod whose character was shared out to another player, and was deleted and sitebanned in June 1995. Wizlist showed that he was evil, and immorted after Psykill and before Daliah. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:01, 17 January 2011 (MST)

	~~== INFO PC template ==~~

	~~Ha, I see you've noticed the INFO PC template. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.~~
	~~It is okay to use. Just keep in mind that~~ I'm ~~still refining it, so it might change some out from under you, and you might have~~ to ~~come back~~ to the ~~articles you've included it on to fix things up. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:10, 17 January 2011 (MST)~~
	~~:* Oops! blush Didn't realize I was jumping~~ the ~~gun. I'll stay aware that it may change. Thank you! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~
	~~By and by, if you come across a template that has incorrect or missing information, and you have better info, feel free to edit it if you wish~~. ~~The information I have is very sketchy. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15~~:~~14, 17 January 2011 (MST)~~
	~~:* Will do! Most of what I put up today was what I had on hand on a USB memory stick.~~ I'll ~~start doing some major file-rummaging to see if I can't find more stuff. :)[[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~
	* On Info pc template, ~~we should probably only supply information that we know.~~ I ~~took a peek at Khore's info, and to my way of thinking, the 'Unknown' lines~~ don't ~~add anything. What do you think? [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:27, 18 January 2011 (MST)~~
	* P.S. - I didn't mean to scare you off.
	~~:* You didn't! :) Just taking a night off, since I got so~~ much ~~posted during~~ the ~~day~~. ~~I tend to like the 'unknown' because it invites people to find the information - whereas, if there ISN'T a field there, they might not think to wonder about what~~'s ~~missing. Can the field be left blank and still have the category there, instead of the 'Unknown'? [[User~~:~~Cordir\|Cordir]]~~


	~~== Templates and categories ==~~

	* A list of categories can be found here: http://wiki.tfcmud.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedCategories
	* A list of templates: http://wiki.tfcmud.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedTemplates

	~~Keep in mind that only some templates should be applied directly~~ to ~~articles, as some templates call other templates, and aren't meant to be called directly. Templates should be categorized, so that the useful, directly applicable ones can easily be found.~~

	~~Some categories are automatically added to an article by virtue of a template. For example, the 'Info pc' template adds categories based on how it~~ is filled out. The Immortal and mortal categories are automatically added in such a way. So is the race category, if race is provided. I would suggest applying the Info pc info box to all characters, provide known information, and ~~then preview the page. You should see some categories specified way at the bottom of the preview, without having to manually add them. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]]~~

	~~:* Wonderful! Thank you, Tynian. I'll try not to break anything!! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	~~== Other templates ==~~

	~~If you're feeling up to it, there are two other templates that may be of interest. They aren~~'t ~~as refined, as I haven't applied them very often. I haven't found their shortcomings yet.~~

	* Template:Info area - For areas
	* Template:Info following - For followings

	If ~~you don't feel comfortable with them, no worries. Just thought I'd mention them as options. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:45~~, ~~18 January 2011 (MST)~~

	* I'~~m not sure I~~'~~m using the templates correctly - I'm copying and pasting them from your template pages~~.. ~~but if you make changes, the copy/pasted template doesn't 'update' - should it? Or am I expecting a bit much? ;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:11, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	* I'm not sure I follow. ~~If you change data in an info box~~, ~~the information that is displayed should also change. Oh! You mean, if~~ I ~~change the template itself, add/modify/remove fields, like what I removed deleted_for? Then right, that doesn't automatically update. There really wouldn't be a way for it to. One~~ would have ~~to go back and fix up any templates that break~~ as a ~~result of changes. Which is why I try to avoid changing them, else we're going to have to re-visit a lot of pages~~. ~~[[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 10:53, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~Gotcha. Well, some suggestions, then? For the Info Following, adding Ordained~~ would ~~be good..~~ [[~~User:Cordir\|Cordir~~]]

	* I thought about that, and am open to it. ~~I didn't do it out of concerns that some followings have switched OMs quite a lot, and wasn't sure how useful such a list would be. Still want me to add it?~~ [[~~User:Tynian\|Tynian~~]] ~~11:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I would say Yes~~.~~. it's info I've been posting manually, so having it as part of the template would be helpful!~~ [[~~User:Cordir\|Cordir~~]]

	~~== Signing talk pages and the like ==~~

	* You probably already knew this, but in case you didn't.~~.. there's~~ a ~~couple~~ of ~~shortcuts for signing your name. 3 tildes just signs your name (and talk page) and 4 tildes signs name and date. I hope this is helpful. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I didn't know that! Thank you! (To be honest~~, ~~I've been cutting and pasting the (User: Tynian\|Tynian) in yours~~, ~~and then typing in my name~~. blush [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	* I ~~was afraid of that. You are far more patient than me. I have enough trouble remembering~~ to ~~sign, without having~~ to ~~remember the signature "form." Thanks again for the information dump. It's~~ a ~~lot to go through -- we have red links everywhere! [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:59~~, ~~20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I'm having an obscene amount of fun~~, ~~honestly...~~ [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:10, ~~20 January~~ 2011 (~~MST~~)

Rath at 19:44, 24 April 2011

2011-04-24T19:44:12Z

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	Well, I'm not sure how much good it's doing to look through all this stuff. It just makes me sad, everyone that I knew that have moved on. I guess there's a dark side to history. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 17:07, 17 January 2011 (MST)		Well, I'm not sure how much good it's doing to look through all this stuff. It just makes me sad, everyone that I knew that have moved on. I guess there's a dark side to history. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 17:07, 17 January 2011 (MST)
	:* I guess I look at it like this: The richness of TFC's history is something to be celebrated: whether it happened yesterday or ten years ago. Yes, many have moved on.. but still others find it, and some of our oldest players are still visiting regularly. :) And besides - this wiki is going to give me an excuse to bug some old friends and nudge them this way to update stuff. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]		:* I guess I look at it like this: The richness of TFC's history is something to be celebrated: whether it happened yesterday or ten years ago. Yes, many have moved on.. but still others find it, and some of our oldest players are still visiting regularly. :) And besides - this wiki is going to give me an excuse to bug some old friends and nudge them this way to update stuff. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]

			Hi Cordir - What do you think of implementing some sort of entry requirements for the "People" page? [[User:Rath\|Rath]]

	===2.x stuff===		===2.x stuff===

Cordir: /* Other templates */

2011-01-20T18:53:28Z

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	* I thought about that, and am open to it. I didn't do it out of concerns that some followings have switched OMs quite a lot, and wasn't sure how useful such a list would be. Still want me to add it? [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 11:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)		* I thought about that, and am open to it. I didn't do it out of concerns that some followings have switched OMs quite a lot, and wasn't sure how useful such a list would be. Still want me to add it? [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 11:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)

			I would say Yes.. it's info I've been posting manually, so having it as part of the template would be helpful! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]

	== Signing talk pages and the like ==		== Signing talk pages and the like ==

Tynian: /* Other templates */

2011-01-20T18:50:40Z

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	Gotcha. Well, some suggestions, then? For the Info Following, adding Ordained would be good.. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]		Gotcha. Well, some suggestions, then? For the Info Following, adding Ordained would be good.. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]

			* I thought about that, and am open to it. I didn't do it out of concerns that some followings have switched OMs quite a lot, and wasn't sure how useful such a list would be. Still want me to add it? [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 11:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	== Signing talk pages and the like ==		== Signing talk pages and the like ==

Cordir: /* Other templates */

2011-01-20T18:25:21Z

Other templates

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	* I'm not sure I follow. If you change data in an info box, the information that is displayed should also change. Oh! You mean, if I change the template itself, add/modify/remove fields, like what I removed deleted_for? Then right, that doesn't automatically update. There really wouldn't be a way for it to. One would have to go back and fix up any templates that break as a result of changes. Which is why I try to avoid changing them, else we're going to have to re-visit a lot of pages. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 10:53, 20 January 2011 (MST)		* I'm not sure I follow. If you change data in an info box, the information that is displayed should also change. Oh! You mean, if I change the template itself, add/modify/remove fields, like what I removed deleted_for? Then right, that doesn't automatically update. There really wouldn't be a way for it to. One would have to go back and fix up any templates that break as a result of changes. Which is why I try to avoid changing them, else we're going to have to re-visit a lot of pages. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 10:53, 20 January 2011 (MST)

			Gotcha. Well, some suggestions, then? For the Info Following, adding Ordained would be good.. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]

	== Signing talk pages and the like ==		== Signing talk pages and the like ==

Tynian: /* Other templates */

2011-01-20T17:53:30Z

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	* I'm not sure I'm using the templates correctly - I'm copying and pasting them from your template pages.. but if you make changes, the copy/pasted template doesn't 'update' - should it? Or am I expecting a bit much? ;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:11, 20 January 2011 (MST)		* I'm not sure I'm using the templates correctly - I'm copying and pasting them from your template pages.. but if you make changes, the copy/pasted template doesn't 'update' - should it? Or am I expecting a bit much? ;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:11, 20 January 2011 (MST)

			* I'm not sure I follow. If you change data in an info box, the information that is displayed should also change. Oh! You mean, if I change the template itself, add/modify/remove fields, like what I removed deleted_for? Then right, that doesn't automatically update. There really wouldn't be a way for it to. One would have to go back and fix up any templates that break as a result of changes. Which is why I try to avoid changing them, else we're going to have to re-visit a lot of pages. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 10:53, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	== Signing talk pages and the like ==		== Signing talk pages and the like ==

Cordir: /* Other templates */

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	If you don't feel comfortable with them, no worries. Just thought I'd mention them as options. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:45, 18 January 2011 (MST)		If you don't feel comfortable with them, no worries. Just thought I'd mention them as options. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:45, 18 January 2011 (MST)

			* I'm not sure I'm using the templates correctly - I'm copying and pasting them from your template pages.. but if you make changes, the copy/pasted template doesn't 'update' - should it? Or am I expecting a bit much? ;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:11, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	== Signing talk pages and the like ==		== Signing talk pages and the like ==

Cordir: /* Signing talk pages and the like */

2011-01-20T17:10:08Z

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	* I was afraid of that. You are far more patient than me. I have enough trouble remembering to sign, without having to remember the signature "form." Thanks again for the information dump. It's a lot to go through -- we have red links everywhere! [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:59, 20 January 2011 (MST)		* I was afraid of that. You are far more patient than me. I have enough trouble remembering to sign, without having to remember the signature "form." Thanks again for the information dump. It's a lot to go through -- we have red links everywhere! [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:59, 20 January 2011 (MST)

			I'm having an obscene amount of fun, honestly... [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:10, 20 January 2011 (MST)

Tynian: /* Signing talk pages and the like */

2011-01-20T16:59:01Z

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	I didn't know that! Thank you! (To be honest, I've been cutting and pasting the (User: Tynian\|Tynian) in yours, and then typing in my name. blush [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)		I didn't know that! Thank you! (To be honest, I've been cutting and pasting the (User: Tynian\|Tynian) in yours, and then typing in my name. blush [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)

			* I was afraid of that. You are far more patient than me. I have enough trouble remembering to sign, without having to remember the signature "form." Thanks again for the information dump. It's a lot to go through -- we have red links everywhere! [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:59, 20 January 2011 (MST)

Cordir: /* Signing talk pages and the like */

2011-01-20T16:52:10Z

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	* You probably already knew this, but in case you didn't... there's a couple of shortcuts for signing your name. 3 tildes just signs your name (and talk page) and 4 tildes signs name and date. I hope this is helpful. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)		* You probably already knew this, but in case you didn't... there's a couple of shortcuts for signing your name. 3 tildes just signs your name (and talk page) and 4 tildes signs name and date. I hope this is helpful. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	I didn't know that! Thank you! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)		I didn't know that! Thank you! (To be honest, I've been cutting and pasting the (User: Tynian\|Tynian) in yours, and then typing in my name. blush [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)

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	~~Hey, Cordir, nice to "see" you. :-)~~ [[User:~~Tynian\|Tynian~~]]		( [[User talk:Cordir/Archive]] )
	~~:* Nice to be able to come and visit. I'm not really familiar with Wikis, but I'll see what I can't contribute... Thank you for the warm welcome! :~~) ~~[[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	~~Wow~~, ~~lots of material! Thanks for getting all of this posted. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 13:21, 15 January~~ 2011 ~~(MST)~~		April 24, 2011: Cleared Talk to Archive.<BR>
	:* My pleasure. Seemed a waste not to ~~get it posted somewhere, since I've hoarded it all these years..~~. ~~;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	Well, I'm not sure how much good it's doing to look through all this stuff. It just makes me sad, everyone that I knew that have moved on. I guess there's a dark side to history. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 17:07, 17 January 2011 (MST)		* Hi Cordir - What do you think of implementing some sort of entry requirements for the "People" page? [[User:Rath\|Rath]]
	:* I guess I look at it like this: The richness of TFC's history is something to be celebrated: whether it happened yesterday or ten years ago. Yes, many have moved on.. but still others find it, and some of our oldest players are still visiting regularly. :) And besides - this wiki is going to give me an excuse to bug some old friends and nudge them this way to update stuff. [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]		** I'm going to copy this over to the Discussion for the People page so we can get more feedback. As for my opinion: I'll be honest, I don't much like the idea. Here's why: Who is to say who is important and who isn't? If we say, 'only level 40s' ... well, I would never have made it as a mortal. Nor would [[Nyx]]. Or [[Pez]]. Or [[Typhon]]. Or a large number of other really awesome, notable, historical folks. I think if someone wants to put in the work to create a page, then no matter who the subject is, then great! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 14:01, 24 April 2011 (MDT)

	Hi Cordir - What do you think of implementing some sort of entry requirements for the "People" page? [[User:Rath\|Rath]]

	~~===2.x stuff===~~
	There's no easy way to find out the original creation date for a 2.x character, since we didn't start keeping track of it until 3.0. Backups from the 2.x era are lost, sadly enough. Drive space was at a premium back then. I think I may have copied some backups off to tape... only I have not been able to successfully read those tapes. The only readable backup I have found was the one right before version 3 went live, which is not helpful to your needs.[[User:Tynian\|Tynian]]

	:* ~~: Aw, drat. :( Thanks, though. :)~~

	~~== Quiller ==~~

	Quiller was a Demigod whose character was shared out to another player, and was deleted and sitebanned in June 1995. Wizlist showed that he was evil, and immorted after Psykill and before Daliah. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:01, 17 January 2011 (MST)

	~~== INFO PC template ==~~

	~~Ha, I see you've noticed the INFO PC template. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.~~
	~~It is okay to use. Just keep in mind that~~ I'm ~~still refining it, so it might change some out from under you, and you might have~~ to ~~come back~~ to the ~~articles you've included it on to fix things up. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:10, 17 January 2011 (MST)~~
	~~:* Oops! blush Didn't realize I was jumping~~ the ~~gun. I'll stay aware that it may change. Thank you! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~
	~~By and by, if you come across a template that has incorrect or missing information, and you have better info, feel free to edit it if you wish~~. ~~The information I have is very sketchy. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15~~:~~14, 17 January 2011 (MST)~~
	~~:* Will do! Most of what I put up today was what I had on hand on a USB memory stick.~~ I'll ~~start doing some major file-rummaging to see if I can't find more stuff. :)[[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~
	* On Info pc template, ~~we should probably only supply information that we know.~~ I ~~took a peek at Khore's info, and to my way of thinking, the 'Unknown' lines~~ don't ~~add anything. What do you think? [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:27, 18 January 2011 (MST)~~
	* P.S. - I didn't mean to scare you off.
	~~:* You didn't! :) Just taking a night off, since I got so~~ much ~~posted during~~ the ~~day~~. ~~I tend to like the 'unknown' because it invites people to find the information - whereas, if there ISN'T a field there, they might not think to wonder about what~~'s ~~missing. Can the field be left blank and still have the category there, instead of the 'Unknown'? [[User~~:~~Cordir\|Cordir]]~~


	~~== Templates and categories ==~~

	* A list of categories can be found here: http://wiki.tfcmud.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedCategories
	* A list of templates: http://wiki.tfcmud.com/index.php/Special:MostLinkedTemplates

	~~Keep in mind that only some templates should be applied directly~~ to ~~articles, as some templates call other templates, and aren't meant to be called directly. Templates should be categorized, so that the useful, directly applicable ones can easily be found.~~

	~~Some categories are automatically added to an article by virtue of a template. For example, the 'Info pc' template adds categories based on how it~~ is filled out. The Immortal and mortal categories are automatically added in such a way. So is the race category, if race is provided. I would suggest applying the Info pc info box to all characters, provide known information, and ~~then preview the page. You should see some categories specified way at the bottom of the preview, without having to manually add them. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]]~~

	~~:* Wonderful! Thank you, Tynian. I'll try not to break anything!! [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]]~~

	~~== Other templates ==~~

	~~If you're feeling up to it, there are two other templates that may be of interest. They aren~~'t ~~as refined, as I haven't applied them very often. I haven't found their shortcomings yet.~~

	* Template:Info area - For areas
	* Template:Info following - For followings

	If ~~you don't feel comfortable with them, no worries. Just thought I'd mention them as options. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 15:45~~, ~~18 January 2011 (MST)~~

	* I'~~m not sure I~~'~~m using the templates correctly - I'm copying and pasting them from your template pages~~.. ~~but if you make changes, the copy/pasted template doesn't 'update' - should it? Or am I expecting a bit much? ;) [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:11, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	* I'm not sure I follow. ~~If you change data in an info box~~, ~~the information that is displayed should also change. Oh! You mean, if~~ I ~~change the template itself, add/modify/remove fields, like what I removed deleted_for? Then right, that doesn't automatically update. There really wouldn't be a way for it to. One~~ would have ~~to go back and fix up any templates that break~~ as a ~~result of changes. Which is why I try to avoid changing them, else we're going to have to re-visit a lot of pages~~. ~~[[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 10:53, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~Gotcha. Well, some suggestions, then? For the Info Following, adding Ordained~~ would ~~be good..~~ [[~~User:Cordir\|Cordir~~]]

	* I thought about that, and am open to it. ~~I didn't do it out of concerns that some followings have switched OMs quite a lot, and wasn't sure how useful such a list would be. Still want me to add it?~~ [[~~User:Tynian\|Tynian~~]] ~~11:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I would say Yes~~.~~. it's info I've been posting manually, so having it as part of the template would be helpful!~~ [[~~User:Cordir\|Cordir~~]]

	~~== Signing talk pages and the like ==~~

	* You probably already knew this, but in case you didn't.~~.. there's~~ a ~~couple~~ of ~~shortcuts for signing your name. 3 tildes just signs your name (and talk page) and 4 tildes signs name and date. I hope this is helpful. [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:50, 20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I didn't know that! Thank you! (To be honest~~, ~~I've been cutting and pasting the (User: Tynian\|Tynian) in yours~~, ~~and then typing in my name~~. blush [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 09:51, 20 January 2011 (MST)

	* I ~~was afraid of that. You are far more patient than me. I have enough trouble remembering~~ to ~~sign, without having~~ to ~~remember the signature "form." Thanks again for the information dump. It's~~ a ~~lot to go through -- we have red links everywhere! [[User:Tynian\|Tynian]] 09:59~~, ~~20 January 2011 (MST)~~

	~~I'm having an obscene amount of fun~~, ~~honestly...~~ [[User:Cordir\|Cordir]] 10:10, ~~20 January~~ 2011 (~~MST~~)