Katrana: Created page with "[ 13] Tynian: High levels picking on low levels (revised)
Mon Oct 9 18:13:49 2006
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High levels oughta find better things to do than mess with low levels.
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[ 13] Tynian: High levels picking on low levels (revised) 
Mon Oct 9 18:13:49 2006 
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High levels oughta find better things to do than mess with low levels. 
Period. 
 
That said, there is code in to deal with level based differences, and to 
police them. Too many policies that have to be enforced outside of code 
is a drain on the game fun, and leads to assorted problem, most of which 
arise out of uneven application of discipline for a variety of reasons. 
Therefore, we have striven to code in the rules as best as possible. I 
am sure there are some bugs/holes and we will do what we can to fix 
them. But we want to have as much coded as opposed to 
interpretted/applied as possible. 
 
That said, in the case of hi levels picking on low levels, we officially 
frown on it. And if a god+ sees it happen, and decides that something 
should be done about it, then they may just show you what it is like to 
be picked on by someone bigger than you. Maybe a rift...a death 
spell...a trip to Scrie or Scairz...you never know. Be a bully and you 
play with fire... 
 
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Clarification and examples below. My examples are much more restrictive 
than I originally wanted to enforce. Alas, some of you found the lack 
of concrete examples distressing. So, here we are -- nice, tight 
examples. 
 
High level: Someone outside of the PK range of the "low level," 
regardless of level. 
 
Low level: All characters below 20th (effective) level (1st - 19th 
effective). 
 
"picking on": Taking an action against a low level character outside of 
your PK range for the purpose of hindering, harming or intentionally 
annoying or harassing low level character(s). 
 
god+: Immortals of God or higher level that may show you what being 
picked on by a higher level is like, should you engage in such behavior. 
Not to be confused with what your own Immortal may do to you. 
 
If it is harmful to the low level "target" character, LEAVE THEM THE 
HECK ALONE! 
 
High levels don't need to help low levels get dead, whether that's by 
trying to get them mob killed, or helping one or more low level 
characters against another, or even unduly annoying a low level. 
 
Q & A 
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Q1: What if I just summon or portal a low level character to a PK? Am I 
picking still picking on the low level, even though I'll get a bunch of 
PK debt? 
 
A1: Yes. 
 
Q2: But I thought it was okay, since we now get a lot of PK debt for 
summoning someone into a PK. 
 
A2: It's not okay. It _may_ be less likely that a god+ will do anything 
to you. But hey, I wouldn't lose any sleep nor second guess a god+ that 
did act on it. 
 
Q3: What if I continuously close the only exit out of the room? Am I 
still picking on him? 
 
A3: Yes. 
 
Q4: What if I'm just silencing (naturalizing, etc.) the room a low level 
PK is happening in? Am I still picking on him? 
 
A4: Yes. 
 
Q5: What if I cast beneficial spells on my fellow low level follower in 
the midst of a PK? I'm not hurting the other guy, just helping mine. Is 
that okay? 
 
A5: No, it's not okay. If the low level follower needs someone to heal 
him, he should bring someone closer to his own level. 
 
Q6: What if I'm in the room next door, and my fellow low level follower 
flees and runs to me for beneficial spells? 
 
A6: If you are not in the same room as the combatants, I would be 
inclined to let it pass. 
 
Q7: What if I just keep summoning the low level to me for no reason at 
all? Am I still picking on him? 
 
A7: Yes. 
 
Q8: What if I'm just spelling up the mobs the low level is fighting? Am 
I still picking on him? 
 
A8: Yes. 
 
Q9: What if I get the low level to follow me, and I lead them to a Mean 
Aggressive Mob? Am I still picking on him? 
 
A9: Yes. 
 
Q10: What if I had nothing to do with the low level's death, but I loot 
his corpse. Am I still picking on him? 
 
A10: Not if you return his corpse to him ASAP. You can even keep no 
more than three (3) items for your trouble and any gold that was on the 
victim at the time of death (if your god and conscience permits it). 
Otherwise, yes. 
 
Q11: What if I had nothing to do with the low level's death, but I 
sacrifice his corpse. Am I still picking on him? 
 
A11: Yes. 
 
Q12: What if I just help another low level loot another low level's 
corpse. Am I still picking on him? 
 
A12: Yes. If a low level wants to loot another low level's corpse, 
that's their business, but in that case, you need to stay out of it. 
Completely. 
 
Q13: What if the low level attacked me and it was a justified kill? 
Can I loot him? 
 
A13: Yes, so long as the low level attacked on his own free will (not a 
confusion-induced kill, etc.). This exception only lasts as long as 
your kill was justified, and does not give you permission to loot the 
low level's corpse outside of you using your justification to attack, 
kill and loot them. In other words, you don't get to loot their corpse 
if they die to a mob, even if you have a justification on them. 
 
Q: But lots of people have done it, and nothing's happened to them! 
 
A: Well, bummer. Following that reasoning to its logical conclusion, we 
couldn't punish anyone, because it's possible that people got away with 
it before. Of course, I take a different view. You've been warned. You 
did it anyway. You asked for something bad to happen to you. When it 
does, don't cry about it. 
 
Q: Does doing anything that "picks on" a low level mean that something 
bad will happen to me as a result? 
 
A: Maybe. It really means that if you do it, and a god+ does something 
to you, it's your own fault, and in fact, you asked for something bad to 
happen. 
 
Q: What do I need to provide in order to investigate? 
 
A: A [[cmdlog]] of everyone involved, and a note summarizing the 
circumstances. If no one died, and it isn't an egregious case for 
harassment, it may be that nothing will happen. Or maybe something 
will. Take your chances and spin the wheel. 
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Katrana: Created page with "[ 13] Tynian: High levels picking on low levels (revised)
Mon Oct 9 18:13:49 2006
To: all
High levels oughta find better things to do than mess with low levels.
..."