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		<title>Cordir at 21:37, 24 June 2016</title>
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		<title>Cordir: An Immortal Discussion of Nash</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;An Immortal Discussion of Nash&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Category:Nashite Lore]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Logs]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cordir]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Because, Cordir, if one serves an ultimately evil cause, while they are less guilty, they are still bearers of some guilt&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: How can an offer of peace and harmony be evil?&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Nashite offers only peace and harmony to those who agree with them&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: No, blue nashites respect life, evil nashites do not&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: Lord Nash is all things&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: While the idea of disagreeing with one above my station is abhorrant, Lord Tel, I must protest your inaccurate view of Good Nashites.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Such single midndedness ( OOC, RL religious people, take note here)&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo &amp;lt;71&amp;gt;: Hello Nashite Bovine&lt;br /&gt;
Asia &amp;lt;71&amp;gt;: hi&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: The Lich speaks clearly...  Blue Nashites were scorned and spit upon from all sides... but they still remained true to their beliefs...&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Is a problem, for while they are welcome to worship as they choose, to hold that to be the only true belief, and to kill for it , and suppor those who do, i&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: I never scorned Gryphon, nor his lot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Though many disagreed with them, they never killed, never harmed, and never spoke an ill word of those who harmed them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: indeed, blue nashites never harmed anyone through act or inaction&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Yes, Lord Tel, you did.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: I did?&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: but Gryphon was a blue nashite&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Again, I sorrow to raise my voice in disagreement... but you did scorn him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: I felt pity for his disillusionment. But I did not assail him, neither physically, nor verbally.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: it was such a horror, those 'good' followings casting Gryphon mean glances&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Sir... you did.  I have heard it many a time from his own lips... and from your own ears.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: What?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cordir: Pardon... my own ear's evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: What have I said then, to scorn him?&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Your words to your followers, sir.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: *bows out of conversation* Pardon me. I'm going to be accepting a follower, and want to concentrate on that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: The fact remains that I have seen the evil in the orgigins of the nashite religion...&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Lord Nash is evil and good...a pity you can only see one side&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: And can not help but to oconclude that those who serve Nashite, whether good or neutral, are merely being manipulated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tamar: Does that make Lord Nash neutral?&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Indeed it does&lt;br /&gt;
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Asia: he is all Tamar&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: He is neutral,evil, good, lawful and chaotic&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: A pity that I have seen the workings of the followers of nash from before even your time Lich.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Do you say that his Son preached falsely in those days?&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Lord Sirak preached his pov of Lord Nash&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: It is difficult to preach an untruth of someone who is all things&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Do you say that his wanton disregard for the lives of all who disagreed with his theeology &lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: was the working of a belief of a Good deity?&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Lord Nash sayth to smite all non-believers on one hand&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: as well as Lord Nash sayth to help all non-believers on the other hand&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: depends how you heard him&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: It seems that the theology has rather...convieniently....changed over the millenia&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Its all in the nashite literature&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Have you read the Bible or Apocrypha?&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Not in full, but many parts...&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Over time I have likely read the entire bible, but pretty much only the book  s of the maccabess out of the apocrypha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: reading them explains Lord Nash&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Though I have some grasp of christian theology&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Lord tel, may I suggest -   at 6744 l gryphon2&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: As I said, the theology has changesd over the millenia...&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Perhaps your view could change as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: theology doesn't change&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: it is discovered&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: And why should my view change? My beliefs are just as valid as those held by hthe followers of Nash&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: you don't make any new discoveries?&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Discoveries are made with introspection and revelation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: exactly! ok, let's swear you in!&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Changes in my own belief would come to Me&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Through me, not through others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: oh.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Were I to swear upon your bible, and to swear to your faith, it would be an empty Oath, something I can not abide&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: then put some meat behind it when you swear your oath&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tel: For I do not believe in Nash, and doubt I ever will.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Neither his existance, nor his bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: Tel, how else can you explain the greatness of HIM?  He spans many realms, dozens of immortals worship him...hundreds of mortals&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel: Your beliefs are your own to cherish, I will not begrudge you that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Asia: Tel doesn't see the benefits of being a Nashite&lt;br /&gt;
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Molo: I offered my surrender to him&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tel: I see many beniefits, actually, but they all pale in comparison to the major problem.&lt;br /&gt;
Molo: afk for 5&lt;br /&gt;
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who 70&lt;br /&gt;
6 players.&lt;br /&gt;
Elf [    Lesser  God    ] [G] Zarous.&lt;br /&gt;
Min [    Demigoddess    ] [E] Asia, Nashite Mistress of Pain.&lt;br /&gt;
Hum [    Demigoddess    ] [N] Cordir An-Shalach, Lady of Fate, Webmistress&lt;br /&gt;
Elf [     Ambassador    ] [N] Tamar, only a messenger&lt;br /&gt;
Hum [    Lesser  God    ] [G] Tel: God of Passions, First Knight of Dreams&lt;br /&gt;
Hum [     Arch-Lich     ] [E] Molo is afk for 5 &amp;lt;Inv 70&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Hi, Zarouns&lt;br /&gt;
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Asia: hi Z&lt;br /&gt;
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Cordir: Zarous, rather&lt;br /&gt;
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Tamar: Hello&lt;br /&gt;
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Zarous: gratz tamar&lt;br /&gt;
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Tamar: Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel tells you, 'I honestly do not remember ever saying anything against Gryphon. Other than expressing my belief that he was misled.'.&lt;br /&gt;
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You tell Tel, 'Perhaps it was in stronger terms.. it was relayed to me strongly. = ) '.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tel tells you, '*ponder*'.&lt;br /&gt;
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(end of conversation)&lt;br /&gt;
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