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Yet Another Rant

( logged by Abe Stormreaver : 11-14-01)

23 players.
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Rath, Wicked Judge of the Black Conclave
Hum [ Cl:26 Wa:24 ] Paython Grimward, Graham Cracker of the PrU! Coven
Hum [ Ra:20 Ma:20 ] Belsambar Lin Bloodstar: Newbie Helper *Karalyn*
Elf [ Ma:29 ] Nosferatu, Wizard of the Black Conclave.
Elf [ Ra:12 Cl:19 ] Tiberius Xendrilius, Protector of Dreams
Gia [ Wa:19 ] Sarabos Ebon Warrior of the Chosen of Fate
Hum [ Ra:12 ] Spittle in the wind
Hel [ Cl:17 Ra:16 ] Phantom Rotherm, Circle Of Faces -=AYALA=-
Elf [ Cl:28 Ra:29 ] Pan Silvertree, Warden of the Black Conclave
Elf [ Th:29 Cl:30 Ra:30 ] Myronides: The Boys are Back in Town
Elf [ Cl:20 Wa:15 ] Zaaris Tal'shyre
Hum [ Sh: 5 ] Cal, Wisdom is a journey not an ending.
Min [ Ma:15 Wa:12 ] Pikonah, Taxi Driver of the Circle of Faces [AYALA]
Dwa [ Cl:13 ] Drorin the Dwarf
Elf [ Ma:25 Wa:15 ] Silonch, Witch of the Black Conclave.
Elf [ Cl:24 Wa:17 ] Fweep the Tiger
Ogr [ Sh:27 ] Manx Lin, Shaman of Darkness
Elf [ Ra:30 Cl:30 Th:30 ] Maimer, Tiger
Dwa [ Cl:20 Wa:15 ] Derth Etrech: Coven's Number 1 Eligible Bachelor
Aar [ Th:29 Wa:30 Sh:30 ] Keat IpS a LLU 3.x bird - We Rock Round The Clock
Elf [ Cl:14 ] Xandria Kora Benavides, Maiden Masher of Wisdom
Hum [ Ra:18 Cl:20 ] Abe: Tiger G2, (Feather6) 13B(F)20/11B20
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Vex Ironwolf, The Inquisitor of the Coven
Grand Entrance
[Exits: east down]
It is impossible to track here.
A pair of grey leather boots lie here.
(Dark Red Aura) Rath is here.
(Light Blue Aura) Maimer is here.

Rath says (in common), 'you'.
Rath says (in common), 'keat'.
Rath says (in common), 'mael'.
Rath says (in common), 'gytar'.
Maimer says (in common), 'mael did not get a bonus'.
You say (in common), 'Mael 3.x'er'.
Rath says (in common), 'allanon'.
Maimer says (in common), 'since when does keat pk?'.
Rath scratches his head.
Rath says (in common), 'keat helped kantor before :P'.
Maimer says (in common), 'omg a one time event'.
Rath says (in common), 'myron'.
Rath says (in common), 'dal'.
Maimer says (in common), 'and what does myro do besides sit in guild and drool on marisa?'.
You agree with him 100%.
Rath says (in common), 'I'm sure more now that he has uber stats'.
Rath says (in common), 'maimer,it's retarded that tynian screwed all characters present and future'.
You raise your eyebrow.
Maimer says (in common), 'foolishness'.
Rath says (in common), 'because we're not ever gonna achieve your kind of stats'.
You say (in common), 'screwed?'.
Rath says (in common), 'even Lins'.
Rath says (in common), 'the luckiest gnome I've seen'.
Rath says (in common), 'has hp smaller then yours'.
Rath says (in common), 'and he's quite the unordinary'.
Maimer says (in common), 'this will not matter in the grand scope of things'.
Rath says (in common), 'people play for self improvement'.
Maimer says (in common), 'there are only 5 people tops that have over 600hp'.
Rath says (in common), 'I bet there's more'.
Maimer says (in common), 'most of those people will not affect the pk realm'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd estimate 10'.
Maimer says (in common), 'hah'.
Maimer says (in common), '10 my dairy aire'.
Maimer says (in common), 'name em'.
Rath rolls his eyes.
Rath says (in common), 'I named off 6 before'.
Maimer says (in common), 'ive seen most everyone that came on today'.
Rath says (in common), 'well it's day one'.
Maimer says (in common), 'u only named a few that actually cared to do anything about the pk game'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Maimer says (in common), 'maybe you are a little upset tynian has lvld the playing field and all that is left is skill'.
Rath rolls his eyes.
You say (in common), 'I also think it's interesting that there's more ppl online tonight on average for the month, yet few clavers'.
Maimer says (in common), 'and luck'.
Maimer nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'that field was level BEFORE'.
Maimer says (in common), 'bs'.
Rath says (in common), 'people are on to check ohut the change'.
Maimer says (in common), 'completely'.
Rath says (in common), 'the field was completely level'.
Maimer says (in common), 'out of 6 people that had over 50dam only 2 of those were good'.
Rath says (in common), 'you did what you could,you got up'.
Rath says (in common), 'so friggin WHAT?'.
Rath says (in common), 'how the hell do you think we got there Maimer'.
Pan arrives from below.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah,that's fair,knock them down after they work to get there?'.
Rath says (in common), 'take away all their good fortune and hard work?'.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah that's pretty friggin sweet'.
Rath rolls his eyes.
Maimer says (in common), 'i could have said the same thing when 3.x went in rath'.
Maimer says (in common), 'and you know what i stook it out'.
Rath says (in common), 'different entirely'.
Pan says (in common), 'alot of people did say it'.
Maimer says (in common), 'i paid my dues'.
Pan says (in common), 'hehe you left maimer :)'.
Maimer says (in common), 'i left?'.
Pan says (in common), 'then came back when you got bored'.
Vex looks at Maimer.
Pan says (in common), 'you did leave'.
Rath says (in common), 'how many hp did you have before the change maimer?'.
Pan says (in common), 'just like I left'.
Maimer says (in common), 'oh baloney, never once did i ever leave this mud'.
Rath says (in common), 'balogney'.
Maimer says (in common), 'now i didnt play often'.
Pan says (in common), 'thats same as leaving'.
Maimer says (in common), 'but i never stated i retired, or said hey folks ill be gone for awhile'.
Vex pokes Pan in the ribs.
Pan shrugs.
Maimer says (in common), 'only because there were more people that left our side'.
Rath says (in common), 'and now we aren't even on a field,we're on concrete'.
Maimer says (in common), 'due to all the bs everyone had to go thru'.
Rath says (in common), 'it was even quite a bit in 3x maimer'.
Maimer says (in common), 'you are just flat out blind'.
Rath says (in common), 'Lorna's Tigers,Solanthas's War Dancers'.
24 players.
Hel [ Ma: 2 ] Elphaba the Half-Elf Maiden
Gia [ Sh:16 ] Tsumemasa, Disciple of the Circle of Faces [SAYA]
Hum [ Wa:12 ] Liendra Pendrelle :) to You Too!
Hum [ Ra: 3 ] Zion the Boy
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Rath, Wicked Judge of the Black Conclave
Hum [ Cl:26 Wa:24 ] Paython Grimward, Graham Cracker of the PrU! Coven
Hum [ Ra:20 Ma:20 ] Belsambar Lin Bloodstar: Newbie Helper *Karalyn*
Elf [ Ma:29 ] Nosferatu, Wizard of the Black Conclave.
Hel [ Cl:17 Ra:16 ] Phantom Rotherm, Circle Of Faces -=AYALA=-
Elf [ Cl:28 Ra:29 ] Pan Silvertree, Warden of the Black Conclave
Elf [ Th:29 Cl:30 Ra:30 ] Myronides: The Boys are Back in Town
Elf [ Cl:20 Wa:15 ] Zaaris Tal'shyre
Hum [ Sh: 5 ] Cal, Wisdom is a journey not an ending.
Min [ Ma:15 Wa:12 ] Pikonah, Taxi Driver of the Circle of Faces [AYALA]
Dwa [ Cl:13 ] Drorin the Dwarf
Elf [ Ma:25 Wa:15 ] Silonch, Witch of the Black Conclave.
Elf [ Cl:24 Wa:17 ] Fweep the Tiger
Ogr [ Sh:27 ] Manx Lin, Shaman of Darkness
Elf [ Ra:30 Cl:30 Th:30 ] Maimer, Tiger
Dwa [ Cl:20 Wa:15 ] Derth Etrech: Coven's Number 1 Eligible Bachelor
Aar [ Th:29 Wa:30 Sh:30 ] Keat IpS a LLU 3.x bird - We Rock Round The Clock
Elf [ Cl:14 ] Xandria Kora Benavides, Maiden Masher of Wisdom
Hum [ Ra:18 Cl:20 ] Abe: Tiger G2, (Feather6) 13B(F)20/11B20
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Vex Ironwolf, The Inquisitor of the Coven

Rath says (in common), 'even'.
Rath says (in common), 'the Conclave just won survived longer'.
Rath says (in common), 'er'.
Rath says (in common), 'not won'.
Rath says (in common), 'survived'.
Rath says (in common), 'what's all this bs everyone had to go thru?'.
Rath rolls his eyes.
Rath says (in common), 'stupid ranger'.
Rath pokes you (Abe)in the ribs.
Rath says (in common), 'what about you'.
You raise your eyebrow.
Rath says (in common), 'opinion on this'.
You say (in common), 'Which part?'.
You say (in common), 'the stats or the dam?'.
Rath says (in common), 'all of it'.
You say (in common), 'ahh'.
You say (in common), 'Well us newbies can't often comment on such things... but...'.
You ponder the question.
You say (in common), 'I think the 2.x'ers universally needed a boost.'.
You say (in common), 'The degree is up to the Imp'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'I'll agree with you'.
Rath says (in common), 'what about the damage'.
You say (in common), 'As for the stat limits, it's a matter of how you view the importance of a given stat'.
You say (in common), 'Do you think dam is that important to have?'.
Manx says (in common), 'no'.
You say (in common), 'Killers say 'yes' because it makes more dead players.'.
You say (in common), 'Others will say 'no' because pk is a 'part' of the game, not the priority'.
You say (in common), 'So like I said.. it depends on how you view it'.
Rath says (in common), 'yep'.
Rath says (in common), 'but when it comes down to it'.
Rath says (in common), 'what brings people here is pking'.
Rath says (in common), 'period'.
You shake your head.
Rath says (in common), 'keeps em here too'.
You say (in common), 'Not me. Never did.'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'I think a lot of people do'.
You say (in common), 'I like that it's 'part' of the game'.
You say (in common), 'I didn't like when it was the priority'.
Rath says (in common), 'what period was this?'.
Rath says (in common), 'early 2x?'.
Rath says (in common), 'I liked that'.
Rath says (in common), 'I liked that'.
Rath grins evilly.
Rath says (in common), 'but then again I would'.
You chuckle.
You say (in common), 'brb to talk more about this'.
(Abe runs out on an errand, then returns)
Grand Entrance
[Exits: east down]
It is impossible to track here.
(Token magic) A magical spring flows from the ground here.
A pair of grey leather boots lie here.
(Dark Red Aura) Manx is here.
(Light Red Aura) Vex is resting here.
(Dark Red Aura) Pan is here.
(Dark Red Aura) Rath is here.
You say (in common), 'to continue...'.
You say (in common), 'The dam rolls got silly...'.
You say (in common), 'Grismal and Daelin to begin with'.
You say (in common), 'It went on from there'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's two exceptial cases I would say'.
You say (in common), 'Pretty soon, killers were swinging caps regularly'.
You say (in common), 'It did well on both sides for awhile'.
Rath says (in common), 'everyone swung caps in 2x'.
You say (in common), 'But eventually, as is always the case, the clave gathers more dam'.
Rath says (in common), 'wonder why'.
You say (in common), 'on a different scale, Rath'.
Rath says (in common), 'we're super lucky'.
You say (in common), 'You're not lucky, you're killers.'.
You say (in common), 'That's what you do'.
You say (in common), 'No other fol does it as much'.
Rath says (in common), 'sorry,I was just taking the denial explanation that everyone else offers'.
You nod.
Rath says (in common), 'uh..*stutter*..you guys just got LUCKY\'.
You say (in common), 'No other fol is as good at it or as successful at it as a result'.
Rath says (in common), 'true'.
Rath says (in common), 'we focus a lot on it'.
Rath says (in common), 'so doesn't it seem that we're being penalized for being sucessful?'.
You say (in common), 'Penalizaed for being successful?.. not at all'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
You say (in common), 'You're just a detriment to the Imp's goals.'.
Rath says (in common), 'they took away the killer's toy'.
Rath says (in common), 'ah'.
Rath says (in common), 'good way to put it'.
Majere says (in common), 'i thought you said "we will adapt and win"'.
You say (in common), 'Frequently dead players don't play.'.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah'.
Rath says (in common), 'that was before he put a cap on how hard we can swing'.
Paython juggles The Triple-Edged Sword of Nashite.
Phantom arrives from below.
You say (in common), 'Hence, lower player base'.
Rath says (in common), 'and made it a case of numbers'.
Majere says (in common), 'its a cap that hits all players'.
Rath says (in common), 'there are more NON NASHITES then there are CONCLCAVE'.
Majere says (in common), 'so it shouldnt matter'.
You say (in common), 'Rath you're not getting it'.
Rath says (in common), 'therefore,40 people who swing 50 will defeat 8 who swing 50'.
Majere says (in common), 'SPEAKING IN CAPS WONT HELP US UNDERSTAND YOU'.
Rath says (in common), 'and Tynian will get his goal'.
You say (in common), 'No other fol places so much emphasis on pk'.
You say (in common), 'So no other fol will ever touch you'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's emphasis on words Majere.Don't get pissy because I can use my enunciation with such flare'.
Majere says (in common), 'i dont get pissy'.
Rath says (in common), 'I don't know'.
Rath says (in common), 'just seems to me'.
Rath says (in common), 'that if you sacrifice this kind of damage'.
Rath says (in common), 'the mud gets safer,right?'.
You say (in common), 'So there's a cycle... new clavers get set up if they can pk'.
Rath says (in common), 'safety is boring'.
You say (in common), 'Safety is boring?'.
Rath says (in common), 'quite'.
You say (in common), 'Ask how many people would rather live than die'.
You say (in common), 'There's your causality'.
Rath says (in common), 'bah'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's not certain death'.
Rath says (in common), 'we ain't that good'.
You say (in common), 'Swinging 80+ it is'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's a good chance =)'.
Rath says (in common), 'dude'.
Rath says (in common), 'there were 6 people with 50+ dam'.
You say (in common), '4 were clave'.
Rath says (in common), 'me,Tylorn,Maldo,Maimer,Lins,and Khorlan'.
You say (in common), 'and played often'.
Rath says (in common), 'qith doesn't have 50+ damage =)'.
You say (in common), 'Maimer has a real life and a job. He doesn't have the time'.
You say (in common), 'Khorlan is never on'.
You say (in common), 'The rest eat most anything in their range'.
You say (in common), 'It's that simple'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'that's three players'.
You say (in common), 'Indeed'.
Rath says (in common), 'this change was because of me,Maldo,and Tylorn?'.
Rath chuckles, evidently amused.
Rath says (in common), 'I hardly fight anymore'.
Rath says (in common), 'Tylorn doesn't come on much'.
Rath says (in common), 'that leaves Maldobar'.
You say (in common), 'How many kills do tylorn and maldo have combined over say.. 6 months'.
Rath says (in common), 'Tylorn?probably not many'.
Rath says (in common), 'Maldobar slays everything in his path'.
You say (in common), 'there's ravaged as well'.
Rath says (in common), 'not 50+ dam'.
Rath says (in common), 'mid 40's'.
Rath says (in common), 'lots of people have mid 40's'.
You say (in common), 'close enough with rift in the background'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'but isn't that coding against players?'.
You say (in common), 'No it's coding to increase player base'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's like..against the prime directive or something'.
You say (in common), 'This is his goal'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's coding against players'.
You shake your head.
You say (in common), 'Players that live play longer'.
You say (in common), 'This is a fact'.
Rath nods.
Rath says (in common), 'but if they rot away of boredom'.
You say (in common), 'Bored?'.
Rath says (in common), 'fact is most people don't come here to xp all the time'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's the only thing you can do with this new little cap'.
You say (in common), 'But xp is the only way to level'.
Rath says (in common), 'but people had an option of doing other stuff before'.
Rath says (in common), 'randoming,pking..'.
You say (in common), 'Levels are the only way to get to places and get stuff'.
Rath says (in common), 'randoming is pointless if you only have to wear 30 dam 15 svs and 10 hit'.
Rath says (in common), 'cause you can get a set real quick'.
You say (in common), 'FOr me, my thrill was clearing Master's'.
Rath says (in common), 'pking is gone'.
You say (in common), 'pk is something extra here for me'.
Rath says (in common), 'for the most part'.
Rath nods.
You say (in common), 'pk isn't gone'.
Rath says (in common), 'you and maimer and grismal and malin'.
You say (in common), 'it's different'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's gone as we know it'.
You say (in common), 'er.. me and Maim and Berrin and Myro'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'that's right'.
Rath says (in common), 'that fool Berrin was there'.
You say (in common), 'Gone as you know it?'.
You say (in common), 'You mean no more 2 rounding?'.
You say (in common), 'Yes'.
Rath says (in common), 'uh'.
Rath says (in common), 'let me enlighten you'.
Rath says (in common), 'Tirant died in two rounds today'.
You say (in common), 'now we get to see those all-encompassing 'skills' I hear so much about'.
Rath says (in common), 'Tynian's "I'll take out 2 rounding" didn't work'.
You say (in common), 'against 4 players yeah'.
Rath says (in common), 'the only way 2 rounding happens is when there are that many people'.
You say (in common), 'bs took him to less than half'.
You say (in common), 'Maldo can 2 round me solo'.
Rath says (in common), 'he can't attack you'.
You say (in common), 'actually, one round me'.
Rath says (in common), 'pk code nerf'd that'.
You say (in common), 'Even when I hit eff 30'.
Rath says (in common), 'he still won't be able to'.
You say (in common), 'he would have been able to do it'.
Rath says (in common), 'he can't'.
You say (in common), 'sure.. why not'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's the point'.
Rath says (in common), 'perm debt'.
You say (in common), 'He can't now.'.
You say (in common), 'Debt doesn't matter to me when I'm dead.'.
Rath says (in common), 'he could before the range nerf'.
You say (in common), 'I'm just as naked'.
Rath says (in common), 'no..he can't do it because he HAS perm debt'.
Rath says (in common), 'his range is bad'.
Rath says (in common), 'before the range nerf,2 rounding was possible'.
You say (in common), 'No matter. It's more universal than maldo'.
Rath says (in common), 'an eff 50 against a 20'.
Rath says (in common), 'who else swung that big?'.
You say (in common), 'It affects all players'.
You say (in common), 'I don't think you understand.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I just think it's stupid because it targetted individuals'.
Rath says (in common), 'I understand'.
Rath says (in common), 'you will get your bigger base'.
You say (in common), 'The point was to eliminate the possibility that any one char could do that level of damage anymore'.
Rath says (in common), 'but that doesn't make it right'.
You say (in common), 'Why?'.
Rath says (in common), 'because it isn't just'.
You say (in common), 'Doesn't it increase player base? Sure it does.'.
Rath says (in common), 'he worked that hard to get there'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'I said it would'.
Rath says (in common), 'you'll get your safe little bubble'.
Rath says (in common), 'and the Conclave may or may not stay'.
Rath says (in common), 'well I can't speak for everyone'.
Rath says (in common), 'if it stays like this,I know I won't stay'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'Stay or not stay, it doesn't matter.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I know '.
You say (in common), 'The player base will increase.'.
Rath says (in common), 'there will be 5 more players to live in the bubble'.
Rath says (in common), 'where everyone can hold hands and be happy'.
Rath says (in common), 'and be free from big swings'.
Rath says (in common), 'I dunno'.
You say (in common), 'There are places for what you seek.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I've been a target a lot Abe'.
Rath says (in common), 'I dodged pk's for a long,long time'.
You say (in common), 'pkmud.net or soemthing'.
Rath says (in common), 'and I got hit a lot'.
Rath says (in common), 'but hell,that made it fun'.
Majere yawns.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'isn't fun'.
You say (in common), 'Why?'.
You say (in common), 'It's pure pk'.
You say (in common), 'Just like you want'.
Rath says (in common), 'the thing that makes a pk mud fun is a small playerbase '.
Rath says (in common), 'not a huge one'.
Rath says (in common), 'then it's all anonymous'.
You say (in common), 'I don't understand'.
Rath sits down and thinks deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'ok'.
You say (in common), 'You love pk, so a pure pk mud should ber perfect'.
Rath says (in common), 'avg playerbase on one of those things is what,couple hundred?'.
You say (in common), '*be'.
You say (in common), 'Something like that'.
Rath says (in common), 'you can't get to know a couple hundred people'.
Rath says (in common), '30-40..maybe 50'.
Rath says (in common), 'tops'.
Majere says (in common), 'there are like 20 ppl on a pk mud'.
You say (in common), 'They have clans and things'.
Rath says (in common), 'but I mean..I don't care if I kill xyz if I don't know him'.
Rath says (in common), 'the ones I went to were huge Majere'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's why I didn't stay'.
Rath says (in common), 'too big'.
Majere says (in common), 'well the pkmud i knew from redrum was tiny'.
Rath says (in common), 'I liked this one because of it's size'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'll have to check it out'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'So you want to kill people on a mud with a smaller player base and easier targets.'.
Rath says (in common), 'not easier'.
You ponder the question.
Majere snickers with you about your shared secret.
Rath says (in common), 'although easy was fun'.
Derth says (in common), 'lol'.
Rath says (in common), 'I mean..people actually died'.
Rath says (in common), 'now it's just..wait till someone screws up'.
Rath says (in common), 'like Tirant being a complete turd today'.
You say (in common), 'Well now we get to see those awe-inspiring 'skills' I've heard so much about.'.
Rath says (in common), 'hurricane will be nasty'.
You nod in recognition to him.
Majere snickers with you about your shared secret.
Rath says (in common), 'I don't care if you think I'm skilled or not,Abe'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'Not you, Rath.'.
You say (in common), 'I've seen you play. You're a good mudder.'.
You say (in common), 'However, there are ... um.. others.'.
Rath says (in common), 'then who are you referring to'.
You say (in common), 'swing, swing, chase, swing swing, dead'.
Rath nods.
Rath says (in common), 'that can be boring'.
You say (in common), 'They call that 'skill''.
You say (in common), 'No more of that nonsense.'.
You say (in common), 'I applaud Tynian as a result.'.
Rath says (in common), 'skill invovles a couple things'.
Rath says (in common), 'using your tools and spells'.
You say (in common), 'and knowledge of the environment'.
Rath says (in common), 'tools have gotten nerf'd kinda with the removal of the white flag and a few other items'.
Rath says (in common), 'spells..'.
Majere says (in common), 'you are wasting your time abe'.
Majere says (in common), 'he has a way to whine about everything'.
You smile at him.
Rath says (in common), 'that's just knowledge of which spell to cast first with how much mana depending on the situation'.
Rath comforts Majere.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah I'm whining'.
Rath shrugs.
Majere nods.
Rath says (in common), 'I got a reason to'.
You say (in common), 'Timing.. judgement.. these things matter in pk'.
Majere says (in common), 'yeah you are'.
Majere says (in common), 'why dont you "adapt and win"'.
Majere says (in common), 'like you all said you could'.
You say (in common), 'I've seen some ravaged logs'.
Rath says (in common), 'I said that before I found out about damcap'.
Rath says (in common), 'not after'.
You say (in common), 'rift, swing, swing, rift, get corpse'.
Rath says (in common), 'hey Majere'.
You say (in common), 'I think Maimer and the others demonstrated how to overcome.'.
Rath says (in common), 'would you complain if they took out the damcap,made link nonverbal,and removed flee lag?'.
You say (in common), 'A large group did the work of individuals'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh and took out the range nerf'.
Rath says (in common), '?'.
Rath says (in common), 'Maimer and that group did ok'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'll admit,that was decent'.
Majere says (in common), 'what'.
Majere says (in common), 'i wasnt listening to you'.
You say (in common), 'It was 4 people swinging, a confuse, and a backstab'.
Rath says (in common), 'then you don't get to participate'.
Rath nods in recognition to you.
You say (in common), 'It wasn't rocket science'.
Rath says (in common), 'not a lot of skill'.
Rath says (in common), 'confuse was nice'.
You nod your head in agreement.
Rath says (in common), 'everything else was just SP'.
You say (in common), 'However it demonstrated that the damcap doesn't mean 'no pk''.
Majere nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'true'.
Rath says (in common), 'so it means that numbers will mean pk now'.
Rath says (in common), 'whoever has the most people will win'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'It means there's no more lone wolves prowling for targets to waste in 2 rounds'.
Majere says (in common), 'good'.
Rath says (in common), 'and who will have the most people?the people who benefit the most'.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah,you'll be able to leave the guild and do something productive majere'.
Rath says (in common), 'friggin yellow monkey'.
Majere says (in common), 'oh hit me where it hurts rath'.
You say (in common), 'Oh.. I've been out of guild when you were on, Rath. Sorry about that.'.
You grovel before him.
Rath snickers softly.
You grin happily at him.
Rath says (in common), '1.I can't attack you'.
You say (in common), 'huh'.
You say (in common), 'You're in range, dude'.
You are hungry.
Rath says (in common), '2.quaff teleport is quick to type'.
Rath says (in common), 'or quaff vial'.
Rath says (in common), 'how about no Abe'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'm not'.
Rath says (in common), 'you gotta get used to these nerf'd ranges dude'.
You scratch your head.
You say (in common), 'My range is 42'.
Rath says (in common), 'doesn't matter'.
Rath says (in common), 'I can't attack you'.
You blink.
Rath says (in common), 'You can kill Abe naked and weaponless'.
Rath says (in common), 'You are NOT allowed to attack Abe'.
Majere tells you (in common), 'dont believe him'.
You tell Majere (in common), 'I don't'.
You tell Majere (in common), 'I play along, but I'm not a fool'.
Majere nods in recognition to you.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'Honestly, I think it's more or less an issue of how some people feel about pk itself.'.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah'.
Rath says (in common), 'just kind of sad to have the fun come to an end with a code change'.
Rath says (in common), 'instead of someone killing me or something'.

Justi rests.
Justi nods in recognition to Rath.
Rath says (in common), 'kind of like retiring when I'm injured'.
Rath says (in common), 'like McGuire did'.
You say (in common), 'I still don't uderstand how you can say that pk is done.'.
Majere says (in common), 'when vex just pked orpik'.
You say (in common), '*understand, that is'.
Majere smirks.
Majere leaves down.
You say (in common), 'I think it's different.'.
Rath says (in common), 'because I don't think you'll see 4 people cooperating like we saw today that often'.
You say (in common), 'Why not?'.
You say (in common), 'There's more than 4 people in your fol.'.
Boyardee arrives from below.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'I don't think there's going to be as many people left after this is done'.
Rath says (in common), 'from my following'.
You say (in common), 'How so?'.
You say (in common), 'ah'.
Rath says (in common), 'so..'.
You say (in common), 'That's their choice.'.
Rath says (in common), 'what are you non nashites going to do without your jihad?'.
Rath says (in common), 'start fighting each other'.
You say (in common), 'hmm'.
You say (in common), 'Flare's Treasure room.'.
Rath says (in common), 'and there ain't 4 competent blue pkers'.
Rath snickers softly.
You say (in common), 'Jester's Keep'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd love to try that'.
Boyardee says (in common), 'it'll be one happy fun hugfest chat mud'.
Boyardee pukes.
Rath nods in recognition to Boyardee.
Rath says (in common), 'that's what I said'.
You say (in common), 'No, it'll have pk.'.
Rath says (in common), 'it'll be toned down pk'.
You say (in common), 'Yes, quite'.
You say (in common), 'Much harder'.
Rath says (in common), 'the adrenaline isn't going to pump if you get hit with a maim'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh crap,I lost 50 hp'.
You say (in common), 'Right.. you might stick around'.
Rath says (in common), 'better decide what to do'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh boy..stick around'.
Rath says (in common), 'then you get to see three rounds of maims/decimates/and parries before the person teleports'.
You say (in common), 'Battles will be alot longer and alot more interesting'.
Rath says (in common), 'there will be more combat,but the result will be the same'.
Rath says (in common), 'interesting??!?!?!'.
Rath says (in common), 'you call Majere-like swings INTERESTING?'.
You say (in common), 'Then we get to see logs of 'skills' rather than swings'.
Rath says (in common), 'I think swinging like a one armed elderly woman sucks'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'You're equating thrill with damage'.
Rath says (in common), 'damn straight'.
Rath says (in common), 'I like seeing ANNIHILATE'.
You say (in common), 'ahh'.
You say (in common), 'There's the heart of it'.
Rath nods.
You say (in common), 'pkmud.net'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah'.
You say (in common), 'Lots of damage'.
You say (in common), 'In fact, little else but damage'.
Rath says (in common), 'just sucks that I have to give up my home of 6 years cause I got overrun by treehugging hippies'.
You say (in common), 'You'll have a blast'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd be all for this "influx of skill pk logs" if there were more spells'.
Rath says (in common), 'fact of the matter is there's very few pk related spells'.
You say (in common), 'You're simply lashing out because you don't have access to outrageous damage'.
Rath nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'yup'.
You say (in common), 'It's not parallel to the Imp's goals, Rath.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I mean,ok..I blind someone.They quaff a glowing'.
Rath says (in common), 'I confuse them,they quaff brown'.
Rath says (in common), 'I curse them,they quaff yellow'.
Rath says (in common), 'I fear them,they quaff brown'.
Rath says (in common), 'I dispel good them,they quaff a sanct'.
Rath says (in common), 'now see..'.
Rath says (in common), 'before,you couldn't do that'.
Rath says (in common), 'causae if you sit there and dig out potions'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'll kill you with my swing in the meantime'.
Rath says (in common), 'but now with the big fatty 40 damage a swing'.
Rath says (in common), 'people can do whatever they want'.
Rath says (in common), 'play tiddley winks during pk's'.
You say (in common), 'So it hurts your feelings when people counteract your pk spells'.
You say (in common), 'I can only suggest counseling.'.
Rath says (in common), 'hurts them when I can't bash their skull in with my maul'.
You say (in common), 'ahh'.
Rath says (in common), 'explain to me how to kill someone with a low swing and no spells abe?'.
Rath says (in common), 'use my environment?'.
You say (in common), 'More people'.
Rath says (in common), 'yeah'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's what it comes down to'.
You say (in common), 'Like the older tfc'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's gonna suck if all these people that pk is counting on disappears'.
Justi says (in common), 'all it means is people will just sit in safe when you manage to get a decent group'.
You say (in common), 'Yes, Justi.'.
Rath says (in common), 'or quaff teleport'.
Rath says (in common), 'like they did before'.
Rath says (in common), 'just now they'll have more time to,because of a smaller swing'.
You say (in common), 'Yes.. more time to get away.'.
Rath nods.
You say (in common), 'More time to live.'.
Rath says (in common), 'less pk's'.
You say (in common), 'Keep eq.. more time to xp'.
You say (in common), 'More players.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I understand your point Abe'.
Rath says (in common), 'less pking,more people'.
Rath says (in common), 'more "fun"'.
You say (in common), 'Not really 'less', but not quite so easy'.
Rath says (in common), 'and I hope you're right man'.
Rath says (in common), 'make no mistake about it.LESS'.
Rath says (in common), 'pking means player KILLING,not player attacking'.
You say (in common), 'I'll be honest with you.'.
Rath says (in common), 'good'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd be pissed otherwise'.
Justi says (in common), 'I think it will end up that everyone wears +30 dmg, +30 da, and some svs, no variety'.
You say (in common), 'I do enjoy pk as a game aspect, however, I don't when it's a priority that is compunded by +damage'.
You say (in common), 'There was a time.. yes for me even..'.
You say (in common), 'Pacho and Toupta... every day'.
You say (in common), 'day in.. day out'.
You say (in common), 'We swung about the same..'.
Rath says (in common), 'what about Pacho and Toupta?'.
You say (in common), 'But there were so many other things going on in pk'.
You say (in common), 'feared Pacho leaves north, Toupta confuses me'.
You say (in common), 'I hit the Jeweller'.
You say (in common), 'It was funny'.
You say (in common), 'It was fun'.
Rath nods.
You say (in common), 'It lasted many many rounds'.
Rath says (in common), 'that was when there was less damage'.
You say (in common), 'Yes.'.
Rath says (in common), 'equipment'.
You say (in common), 'And spells ... hell real 'skill' meant something'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh yeah'.
Bubba says (in common), 'les all have a friendly game of tc smashing'.
Rath says (in common), 'like what,heat metal?'.
Rath snickers softly.
You say (in common), 'Oh baby I miss that spell'.
Justi says (in common), 'what's the point of randoming if my set already has 30 dmg and a goodly number of svs?'.
Rath nods in recognition to you.
You say (in common), 'heat metal sent Craige whining for momma'.
You say (in common), 'man... sigh'.
Majere grins evilly at you.
You say (in common), 'old times'.
Justi says (in common), 'what's the point of xping if I can't improve my set?'.
Rath says (in common), 'anyway'.
Rath says (in common), 'I understand your point'.
Gabriel says (in common), 'the point of playing isn't to build a perfect eq set'.
You say (in common), 'When do you get to a point where your 'set' is good enough?'.
Majere nods in recognition to Gabriel.
Rath says (in common), 'I think that the story was more relavent to a lack of damage equipment then to a ceiling for damage'.
Rath says (in common), 'you sit around like me'.
Rath snickers softly.
Rath says (in common), 'and pk'.
Rath says (in common), 'or watch pk's'.
You say (in common), 'No.. there was a 'glass' ceiling of sorts'.
Rath says (in common), 'kind of'.
Rath says (in common), 'but not really'.
You say (in common), 'with the lack of dam gear'.
Rath says (in common), 'because we broke it'.
You say (in common), 'it was there'.
Justi says (in common), 'but at least it was possible to hit harder'.
You say (in common), 'Now all everyone does is safesit when there's a cap swinger on the lose'.
Rath shrugs.
You say (in common), 'That can't possibly be fun for you'.
Rath says (in common), 'people are stupid'.
Rath says (in common), 'how the hell can I chase 4 different targets?'.
Rath says (in common), 'even when I catch one,they usually quaff recall'.
Rath says (in common), 'and then they're safe'.
Justi says (in common), 'I agree something needed to be done, but taking away the possibility to do better ruins the game'.
Rath says (in common), 'you of all people know how easy it is to escape pk's abe'.
You say (in common), 'Better what? You mean 'more', don't you?'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's naivity'.
Justi nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'just cause I swing 90..'.
You say (in common), 'I know how to escape pk, but that's not the point.'.
Rath says (in common), 'doesn't mean I'm gonna kill you most of the time'.
You say (in common), 'Everyone isn't me.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I should post a note'.
Rath says (in common), '5 steps on how to escape a pk'.
Majere says (in common), 'you only need 2'.
You say (in common), 'Rath, timing can't be taught.'.
Rath says (in common), '1.Go to Trading post and purchase vials'.
Justi says (in common), 'flee quaff teleport'.
Rath says (in common), '2.ask a shaman to fill them with teleport'.
Rath says (in common), '3.put them in a big,keep three in inventory'.
You say (in common), 'Just because you can quaff, doesn't mean it happens'.
Rath says (in common), '4.quaff when attacked'.
Rath says (in common), '5.drink recall after sucessful teleport'.
You say (in common), 'People die that are carrying those potions.'.
Rath says (in common), 'happens most of the time'.
Rath says (in common), 'I give empty vials a lot'.
Rath says (in common), 'people quaff by color'.
Justi says (in common), 'really dumb people or link dead people'.
Rath says (in common), 'and I can't guess the right color man'.
You say (in common), 'Justi, you've killed your share. Not all were dumb or linkdead'.
Bubba says (in common), 'justi you've killed someone?'.
You poke it in the ribs.
Justi says (in common), 'most people I attack quaff teleports'.
Justi nods in recognition to Bubba.
Justi says (in common), 'I killed a couple'.
Bubba says (in common), 'wow'.
Majere nods in recognition to Bubba.
You say (in common), 'I prefer recalls unless it's a noexit, thanks.'.
Justi points to her on body.
You chuckle.
Majere says (in common), 'if i can pk im sure she can'.
Bubba looks at Justi.
Rath says (in common), 'the black conclave has a 6.68% attack to kill ratio'.
Rath says (in common), 'that means a little under 95% of the time,our target escapes'.
Justi says (in common), 'I won't be happy until it is 100%'.
Bubba says (in common), 'yeah well those aren't totally accurate'.
Rath says (in common), 'so basically,this is making sure the target escapes 99% of the time'.
You say (in common), 'But Rath, those figures are very misleading.'.
You shake your head.
Rath says (in common), 'true'.
Rath says (in common), 'they do get skewed by smaller player attacks'.
You say (in common), 'You're using those figures as a total benchmark'.
Bubba says (in common), 'maldo killed me naked, then 2 seconds later gab killed me naked'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd still say my sucess to kill ratio isn't over 20%'.
Rath says (in common), 'Maldo's is probably 30,tops'.
Bubba says (in common), 'mine is way below 20'.
Rath says (in common), 'probably more like 25'.
Bubba says (in common), 'Bubba has initiated 78 attacks, 40 justified, and 38 not justified.'.
Rath says (in common), 'yours is like 10 percent bubba (solo) cause you're a shaman'.
You say (in common), 'smaller players die too often. Tynian saw that this meant they got frustrated and left.'.
Bubba says (in common), 'Bubba is credited with 4 PKs (2 justified, 2 not justified).'.
Rath says (in common), 'ok..'.
Rath says (in common), 'I agree'.
Rath says (in common), 'so that's why he nerf'd ALL pking for sub 10s'.
You say (in common), 'I have zero pks. I'm an angel.'.
Justi says (in common), 'I initiated 101 attacks and killed 4'.
You say (in common), 'Sub 10 isn't newbie, it's teenie'.
Bubba says (in common), 'yeah when you have orgrim swinging DEMO on a lvl 13'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh brother'.
Bubba says (in common), 'things don't go so well'.
Justi says (in common), 'Tynian got rid of that'.
Bubba says (in common), 'i know'.
Rath says (in common), 'I dodged Raiden Potatoe Spud and all those guys when I was level 5-10'.
Justi says (in common), 'now I can't swing demo ever?'.
Rath says (in common), 'if I can do it,so can new players'.
You say (in common), 'actually, sub 20 is more or less newbie, unless it's a designed newbie killer'.
Majere smirks.
Rath says (in common), 'toronoga'.
Rath says (in common), 'all those guys'.
Majere says (in common), 'potatoe and Spud were old old old tucson crew'.
You say (in common), 'Toxic was made to newbie kill'.
Rath says (in common), 'and hell,that was with lodestones'.
Rath says (in common), 'uh'.
You say (in common), 'Toro, yeah'.
Majere says (in common), 'actually spud grew to be onw of the bigger clavers'.
Rath says (in common), 'I didn't think potatoe was tuscon :P'.
Majere says (in common), 'they both were'.
Rath says (in common), 'I thought Potatoe grew to be big claver'.
Majere says (in common), 'yeah he did'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'anyway'.
Majere says (in common), 'way back then we were cool with him'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh wait'.
Rath says (in common), 'he is from tuscon'.
Majere nods in recognition to Rath.
You say (in common), 'So with newbie killers hovering at 19 and slaying hard at eff 16, this meant people left'.
Rath says (in common), 'if everyone else had to do it,why are we quittin now?'.
Rath says (in common), 'so get rid of campers'.
Rath says (in common), 'we did fine for a long time'.
Rath says (in common), 'with all of this in place'.
Majere nods.
You say (in common), 'You mean old killers may not agree, but there will be one heckuva lot more battles now'.
You say (in common), 'They will be long, large, and intense'.
Rath says (in common), 'i think there will be'.
Rath says (in common), 'there will be more'.
Rath says (in common), 'they will be more interactive'.
Rath says (in common), 'there will be less deaths'.
You say (in common), 'Now to me, that will be fun'.
Rath says (in common), 'and EQ will mean less'.
Lictilon says (in common), 'wow, everyone getting hit with wounds intense'.
You say (in common), 'Another damage lover.'.
You say (in common), 'pkmud.net'.
You wave goodbye to Lictilon.
Rath says (in common), 'my biggest problem'.
Rath says (in common), 'is that it's making everyone the same'.
Rath says (in common), 'no room for differentiation'.
Majere says (in common), 'not true'.
Rath says (in common), 'no room for uniqueness'.
Lictilon nods in recognition to Rath.
Rath says (in common), 'ok Majere'.
You say (in common), 'In terms of damage? in a sense'.
Rath says (in common), 'tell me this'.
Majere says (in common), 'those ppl who had tons of extra dmg can trade it for the other stats'.
Majere says (in common), 'svs DA hitroll'.
Rath says (in common), 'what's to distinguish me from you,aside from your glittering personality and my huge ego,now?'.
Rath says (in common), 'aside from followings and all that'.
You ponder the question.
Majere says (in common), 'you still can have a better set of eq than me'.
You say (in common), 'TOugh question, Rath'.
Rath says (in common), 'wrong'.
Majere says (in common), 'to start i dont even have the 30dmg'.
Majere says (in common), 'you have that and more'.
Majere says (in common), 'so you can have 30 dmg and by trading maybe alot more svs etc'.
Rath looks at Majere.
Rath says (in common), 'maybe I should give you some damage'.
Rath says (in common), 'then you'll have 30'.
Rath says (in common), 'then we'll be the same'.
Majere says (in common), 'then youll be doing yourself wrong'.
Rath says (in common), 'there will be cookie cutter characters'.
Rath says (in common), 'warric/30dam/-20svs/30da'.
Rath says (in common), 'functions as a tank in the rumble'.
Majere says (in common), 'there is more to the eq than just 30dmg now'.
You say (in common), 'THey say the same thing about nascars'.
You say (in common), 'Guess what it boils down to'.
You say (in common), 'The driver'.
Rath says (in common), 'uh'.
Rath says (in common), 'nascars are much different'.
Rath says (in common), 'each one is completely different on the inside'.
You say (in common), 'Wanna bet?'.
Lictilon says (in common), 'so you get a kill hoping to improve eq'.
Rath says (in common), 'sure'.
Lictilon says (in common), 'wow charisma eq'.
Rath says (in common), 'they use different brands'.
Rath says (in common), 'different alloys'.
Rath says (in common), 'different crankshafts'.
Rath says (in common), 'drivetrain'.
Rath says (in common), 'everything'.
You say (in common), 'I've been in pits. I've seen the inspections.'.
Rath says (in common), 'body'.
Rath says (in common), 'it might look the same'.
You say (in common), 'It's same-same-same'.
Rath says (in common), 'but I'd bet it's a lot different man'.
You say (in common), 'They tweak.. here a little.. there a little'.
Rath says (in common), 'so you're telling me that Labonte's car would be exactly the same as Jarrett's'.
Lictilon says (in common), 'parts are different'.
You say (in common), 'add what they can... take what they can'.
You say (in common), 'The point is, no two chars will be the same'.
Rath says (in common), 'exactly'.
You say (in common), 'Not the same potions, not the same eq'.
Rath says (in common), 'but they all do the same thing'.
You say (in common), 'Not anymore :-)'.
Rath snickers softly.
You say (in common), 'Frankly, I like it that way.'.
Rath nods.
Rath says (in common), 'I know'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's why we're talking'.
Rath says (in common), 'so I can try and understand the other side'.
You say (in common), 'That means that when I'm level 50 and actually get up the nerve to try a pk, I'll be ready'.
You shudder from the sheer thought of it.
Majere sits down and thinks deeply.
Lictilon says (in common), 'ready for what'.
You say (in common), 'That player kill thingy'.
Lictilon says (in common), 'yeah but wearing 30 dmg is going to kill whom thats wearing 30da?'.
Rath says (in common), 'Lictilon I've beaten this horse to death'.
Rath says (in common), 'no point in saying anything more about that'.
Rath says (in common), 'he's made some good points'.
You say (in common), 'Good question. Sounds like the attacker needs to rethink his/her strategy'.
Rath says (in common), 'it boils down to-'.
Rath says (in common), 'playerkilling as it was became a detriment to the Implementors goals'.
Rath says (in common), 'nothing we can say '.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'it's his MUD'.
Rath says (in common), 'I bitched and moaned'.
Rath says (in common), 'he doesn't care to here it'.
You say (in common), 'In the end, you're exactly right.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I don't blame him'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'but still'.
Rath sighs loudly.
You say (in common), 'Not the 'don't wanna hear' part.'.
You say (in common), 'I think he's listened... say far more than Madman would have'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh I'm always right..'.
Someone burps loudly.
Rath says (in common), 'er...well..'.
Rath says (in common), 'most of hte time'.
Rath says (in common), 'not today'.
Rath frowns.
Rath says (in common), 'bah'.
Rath says (in common), 'Madman wouldn't have made this mess'.
Rath sniffs sadly.
Justi shakes her head.
You say (in common), 'Mess?'.
Rath says (in common), 'I see it as a mess'.
Justi says (in common), 'nwn is not far away'.
Someone laughs.
Rath says (in common), 'so I guess it's percetpions'.
You say (in common), 'You mean the antithesis of the 'more blood' policy is a mess?'.
Rath nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'more blood is good'.
Justi says (in common), 'maybe I will do better in my classes with less to do but study'.
You say (in common), 'pkmud.net'.
Rath says (in common), 'but people who don't like more blood and who benefitted..'.
Rath says (in common), 'they won't see it as a mess'.
Justi says (in common), 'like cordit'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'm allowed to attempt and change my world before I pack up and abandone it which I spent so much time on abe'.
Rath says (in common), 'so quit your little pkmud.net bs'.
Rath says (in common), 'cause I'm sick of it'.
Majere smirks.
Majere says (in common), 'damn you got told abe'.
Majere says (in common), 'good and proper'.
Majere giggles.
You say (in common), 'It's your alternative, Rath.'.
Lictilon snickers with Majere about their shared secret.
Rath says (in common), 'you're right'.
Majere chuckles at Lictilon's joke.
You say (in common), 'Adjust, or seek another venue.'.
Rath rolls his eyes.
You say (in common), 'I don't mean to sound crass.'.
You say (in common), 'It's simply the point.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I understand your point'.
You bow deeply.
Lictilon says (in common), 'abe you'll see it differently when your actually at the affective that you see dmg working for you not against you'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'd like to cite "xpmud.net" and "rpmud.net" for you'.
You say (in common), 'Ah yes, Lictilon. I've often dreamed of what it would be like to have a char that did huge damage.'.
Rath says (in common), 'oh shutup'.
Rath pokes you in the ribs.
Majere says (in common), 'its pretty boring'.
You giggle.
Rath says (in common), 'lictilon..'.
Rath says (in common), 'abe knows the big damage'.
You stare at the sky.
Majere nods in recognition to Rath.
Someone snickers with you about your shared secret.
You whistle a little tune to yourself.
Rath says (in common), 'oh shuddup.You aren't a good liar'.
You say (in common), 'I'm a newbie. That's my story and I'm stickin to it.'.
Rath says (in common), 'told ya'.
You sigh at yourself.  You MUST be lonely.
Grand Entrance
[Exits: east down]
You stand in an ivory and ebony colored marble room. The hushed
tones of the room give a sense of what is to come. You see a
plaque hanging in mid-air.
It is impossible to track here.
Zaaris is here.
(Invis) (Dark Red Aura) Lictilon is here.
(Light Red Aura) Majere is resting here.
(Dark Red Aura) Rath is resting here.
Zaaris says (in common), 'wish i had newbie gear'.
You poke him in the ribs.
Rath says (in common), 'well it's just a shame that the hardcore killers are told "pkmud.net" '.
You say (in common), 'Not hardcore killers, Rath'.
Rath says (in common), 'and we can't just tell other people to do the same thing with a "xpmud.net"'.
You say (in common), 'Hardcore dam addicts.'.
You say (in common), 'There's a significant difference.'.
Rath says (in common), 'born a crackbaby,be a crackhea'.
Rath says (in common), 'you born and bred with damage,it's like takin away your drug'.
You say (in common), 'I know.'.
Majere says (in common), 'get a new drug'.
You say (in common), 'The jones will be tough, but you'll get through'.
Rath says (in common), 'like what?'.
Majere says (in common), 'whatever'.
Rath says (in common), 'Marxism?'.
You say (in common), 'I'm looking forward to the logs, really.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I'll make a bet with you Abe'.
You say (in common), 'oooo'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's this'.
Rath says (in common), 'there won't be an increase in "skills logs"'.
Rath says (in common), 'only an increase in gangbang logs'.
Rath says (in common), 'khorlan..don't even bother'.
You say (in common), 'I can't disagree with you, Rath.'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'i can swing maim!'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'if i dispel your sanc and pro'.
Khorlan snickers softly.
You say (in common), 'But the big pk group is another aspect of skills-based pk'ing'.
Rath says (in common), 'bullcrap'.
Rath says (in common), 'no skill to it'.
You say (in common), 'Oh?'.
Rath says (in common), 'hey joex,want to kill joey?'.
Rath says (in common), 'sure bobx,let's go kill joey'.
You say (in common), 'You're missing the point'.
Rath says (in common), 'whack,bam,boom.joey dies'.
You say (in common), 'Both sides will do it'.
Rath says (in common), 'heh'.
You say (in common), 'Grouping becomes important to everyone for all reasons.'.
Rath says (in common), 'then you won't have your skilled logs will you'.
You say (in common), 'Safety in numbers, etc'.
Rath says (in common), 'you'll have a bunch of clingy people'.
Rath says (in common), 'which is patheticly sappy'.
Rath says (in common), 'because I am a loner'.
Rath says (in common), 'and I don't like grouping'.
You say (in common), 'Indeed'.
You say (in common), 'Groups make the mud grow, though'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'true'.
Rath says (in common), 'I never disagreed with you there'.
Rath says (in common), 'like I said,you'll get your people'.
You bow deeply.
Rath says (in common), 'but is it really worth gutting the hull of the ship to put in a new mast?'.
Vex arrives from below.
You say (in common), 'The ship won't sink, Rath.'.
You say (in common), 'Just fewer sharks.'.
Rath says (in common), 'it's gonna have a crapload of nasty water'.
Vex rests.
Khorlan says (in common), 'it's only the hard core pkers who don't like this'.
Rath says (in common), 'the sharks are gonna leave'.
Rath says (in common), 'everyone will sunbathe in the bahamas'.
You say (in common), 'Not everyone.'.
Rath says (in common), 'except elves'.
You say (in common), 'There are some who will want to pk, no matter what'.
Rath says (in common), 'they get sunburn'.
Rath says (in common), 'stupid pansies'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'i'm one of the people with over 50 dam and i thinks it's for the better'.
You say (in common), 'As for me, well I'm itching to clear the Keep'.
Khorlan nods at himself; he must be getting senile.
Vex says (in common), 'maimer had over 50 too and he thought it was for the better'.
Vex stands up.
Vex leaves down.
You say (in common), 'Pk will happen, I'm sure, but it's not a personal goal'.
You say (in common), 'I like that pk is more an equivalent aspect of the environment as a result of the dam cap.'.
Rath says (in common), 'I had 50+ dam and I think it sucks'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'unfortunately you are the minority ;)'.
Rath says (in common), 'I think it will be even actually'.
27 players.
Elf [ Wa:29 Cl:29 ] Izzy the Elf Ivory Rose WarDancer DawnBringer
Elf [ Th:21 Ra:30 Ma:30 ] Dantrag, Guildsitter of Wisdom "COE"
Hum [ Cl:16 ] Kerien the first Priest of Dawn
Hum [ Th:19 Wa:30 Ma:30 ] Gabriel, Wizard of the Black Conclave.
Gia [ Wa:24 Sh:20 ] Lokum, Knight of the Black Conclave
Elf [ Ma: 5 ] Loren Spellfletcher
Hel [ Sentinel ] Khorlan Farseer, Grand Shaman of the Tigers
Min [ Sh:28 Wa:29 ] Volkov Del'Roh, Warlock of the Black Conclave
Gia [ Sh:16 ] Tsumemasa, Disciple of the Circle of Faces [SAYA]
Dwa [ Wa:19 Cl:25 ] Titan, Bishop of the Coven. -=DFSD=-
Dwa [ Th:30 Sh:30 ] Doc Demento, Tiger Elder -13E AA- -LLU-
Hum [ Th:28 Wa:30 Sh:30 ] Bubba Lin, Emissary of the Coven.
Elf [ Wa:25 Th:20 Ma:25 ] Lictilon, Sorcerer of the Black Conclave
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Vex Ironwolf, The Inquisitor of the Coven
Hum [ Cl:26 Wa:24 ] Paython Grimward, Graham Cracker of the PrU! Coven
Hum [ Ra:12 ] Spittle in the wind
Hum [ Ma:24 Wa:30 ] Boyardee, Black Knight of the Conclave.
Hum [ Ra: 7 ] Zion looking for luck and con eq
Hum [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Rath, Wicked Judge of the Black Conclave
Hum [ Ra:20 Ma:20 ] Belsambar Lin Bloodstar: Newbie Helper *Karalyn*
Elf [ Cl:21 Wa:15 ] Zaaris Tal'shyre
Min [ Ma:15 Wa:12 ] Pikonah, Taxi Driver of the Circle of Faces [AYALA]
Ogr [ Sh:27 ] Manx Lin, Shaman of Darkness
Elf [ Ra:30 Cl:30 Th:30 ] Maimer, Tiger
Dwa [ Cl:20 Wa:15 ] Derth Etrech: Coven's Number 1 Eligible Bachelor
Aar [ Th:29 Wa:30 Sh:30 ] Keat IpS a LLU 3.x bird - We Rock Round The Clock
Hum [ Ra:18 Cl:20 ] Abe: Tiger G2, (Feather6) 13B(F)20/11B20
Khorlan says (in common), 'whats warrior max hit now?'.
Rath says (in common), 'why do you like the change Khorlan?'.
Zaaris says (in common), 'up to EVIS or so'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'because this place is boring when i log on at night and there's only 5 people on'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'more people = more fun!'.
Rath says (in common), 'dude'.
Rath says (in common), 'more dutchies aren't gonna play cause of this'.
Rath says (in common), 'or more new zealanders :P'.
Rath says (in common), 'no one is on when you log on cause you live on the other friggin side of the world'.
You say (in common), 'He's called a 'kiwi', thank you.'.
Rath says (in common), 'and this is a predominately US mud'.
Khorlan laughs.
Khorlan nods in recognition to you.
Rath says (in common), 'whatever.Stupid fruit'.
Khorlan grins happily.
Rath says (in common), 'make the earth flat if you want more people on '.
Rath says (in common), 'then we'll all have the same sun up and sun down'.
Rath stands up.
Rath utters the words, 'sanctuary'. Rath is surrounded by a white aura.
The ghost of the medium golem shimmers and solidifies slightly.
Rath leaves east.
Rath arrives from the east.
Rath rests.
Grand Entrance
[Exits: east down]
You stand in an ivory and ebony colored marble room. The hushed
tones of the room give a sense of what is to come. You see a
plaque hanging in mid-air.
It is impossible to track here.
(Dark Red Aura) (White Aura) Rath is resting here.
Khorlan arrives from the east.
Rath says (in common), 'anyway'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's the only reason?'.
Khorlan utters the words, 'detect magic'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'nah and now i can wear more cool stuff'.
Rath says (in common), 'like what?'.
Rath says (in common), 'cool svs!'.
Rath says (in common), 'and cool hitroll!'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'the goal used to be who could wear the most dam'.
Rath says (in common), 'I think that the majority of the people are taking delight in this change for one reason'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'now i can wear max in about 5 items'.
Rath says (in common), 'and that reason is because it hurts the Conclave the most'.
Rath says (in common), 'you can't wear 30 dam in 5 items,kiwi :P'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'the conclave will adapt or it won't'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'i hope you can adapt'.
Rath says (in common), 'that's not the point Khorlan-the point is people are happy because we got hit the hardest'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'would be sad to lose you guys'.
Rath says (in common), 'we finally got hit like no mortal could hit us'.
Rath says (in common), 'I doubt we'll leave'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'well then no problem!'.
Rath says (in common), 'but if this is the same,I will'.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'maybe a couple other'.
Rath says (in common), 'though I'm sure we won't be missed because of our "old" ways'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'it did drive alot of people off'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'mind you it wasn't all clave'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'just the annoying ones who would trick and kill newbies'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'qith will prob quit again then come back'.
Khorlan snickers softly.
Rath shrugs.
Rath says (in common), 'I didn't like the newbie killing'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'like i said it was only a few'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'and i'm a mage with darkness :P'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'whoops'.
Khorlan says (in common), 'ok time for tea!'.
Khorlan waves happily.
You wave.
Rath says (in common), 'alright,later man'.
Rath says (in common), 'rule the bubble well'.
(end log)

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