Lanfear's Punishment
Notes: Log from 03/29/2002, created by Cordir. Background: Lanfear had been repeatedly reprimanded for associating with Anathema, most often Kain. Cordir found out that yet again Lanfear had defied the rule... and brought it to two of the Taoiseach for their advice: Boromir and Noctus.
You ftell, 'Ok, i need your councel.'.
You ftell, 'since I have Councellors present'.
Boromir ftells, 'M'Lady? '.
You ftell, 'Did you all see my email to the topica list about a Chosen EXP'grouping with an Anathema?'.
Boromir ftells, 'no .. I didnt'.
Noctus ftells, 'hmm neither did I'.
You ftell, 'well, that sums it up, really. I sent it last night.'.
Noctus ftells, 'I didn't find it in my mail box'.
Boromir ftells, 'Lanfear mentioned it last night .. in passing..'.
Boromir ftells, 'I was idlyh curious who the person was'.
You ftell, 'A Chosen was exp'ing with an Anathema, and it happened after they'd already been punished for dealing with Anathema.'.
You ftell, 'My question is, since RP punishments failed to work, how long should they be coolered?'.
Boromir ftells, 'hmmm... thinking is not a stong point'.
Boromir prays, 'who was it? '.
You [GS] tell Boromir, 'lanfear'.
Noctus ftells, 'Who's the Anathema?'.
You ftell, 'Does it matter?'.
You ftell, 'IT shouldn't'.
Boromir prays, '*sigh*'.
Noctus ftells, 'Well it does a little'.
> fjust NAME EFF LVL EXPIRES ------------------------------------------------------------------- Shazam Eff. 47 expires Sat Mar 30 02 20:40:23 Lorax Eff. 34 expires Sat Mar 30 02 19:00:48 Drystan Eff. 26 expires Sat Mar 30 02 11:22:48 Kerson Eff. 39 expires Sat Mar 30 02 08:42:50 Lictilon Eff. 40 expires Fri Mar 29 02 18:37:54 Rath Eff. 40 expires Fri Mar 29 02 19:17:57 Craige Eff. 40 expires Sat Mar 30 02 00:13:50
Noctus ftells, 'Some have been there for ages...for mistakes they made a long time ago'.
Boromir ftells, '*looks thoughtful*'.
Noctus ftells, 'Other are still a constant threat'.
You ftell, 'this is a constant threat'.
You ftell, 'active, and may well have been on FJUST at the time'.
Boromir ftells, 'I would have to agree with Noctus in that we have degrees of anathema'.
Noctus ftells, 'Ok'.
Boromir ftells, 'in that case .. '.
Noctus ftells, 'Hmm, hard to say how long'.
Boromir ftells, 'the question I have to ask is .. would it do any good? '.
You ftell, 'Well, my only other choice is REJECTION'.
You ftell, 'if they will NOT obey my rules'.
You ftell, 'and I would rather not do that'.
Boromir ftells, '*nod* '.
You ftell, 'I cannot keep the Anathema from attacking'.
You ftell, 'But I can punish the CHosen or reject them'.
You ftell, 'What else should I do? Make us a laughingstock?'.
Boromir ftells, 'a week in the cooler...'.
Noctus ftells, 'My first instinct would say 1 week in the cooler'.
Boromir ftells, 'that is well ... not much ... '.
Boromir ftells, 'but it does send a signal '.
Noctus ftells, '*nod*'.
Noctus ftells, 'I have to run now however :( See you later'.
Noctus ftells, 'WIll think about it for a bit'.
Noctus ftells, 'wave'.
Boromir ftells, 'Bye Ncotus *wave*'.
Aslan ftells, '*smile* Later, Noctus ;-)'.
You ftell, 'Anduin was rejected for his dealing with anathema'.
You ftell, '(and other issues)'.
You ftell, 'But that was one of them. '.
Boromir ftells, '*nod*'.
Boromir ftells, '*ponder* '.
Boromir ftells, '*thoughtfully* has this been an ongoing problem with this person? '.
You ftell, 'Yes.'.
You ftell, 'The problem is somewhat that this Anathema - Kain - is generally a nice person.'.
You ftell, 'But he's very aggressive in his hunting of Chosen'.
Boromir ftells, 'ahhh ok .. '.
You ftell, 'Kain can be very nice and pleasant and funny.'.
You ftell, 'so he's easy to talk to, etc.'.
You ftell, 'but...'.
You ftell, 'you'll see a note from Clue saying he attacked her recently'.
Boromir ftells, 'hmmm '.
Boromir ftells, 'then it seems fairly straightforward'.
Boromir ftells, 'whomeever this is .. '.
Boromir ftells, '*thoughtlfully* might be offered a choice '.
Boromir ftells, 'a week in the cooler .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'or if they find the rules too restrictive .. release'.
Boromir ftells, 'although I would suspect its not a path you wish to travel '.
You ftell, 'I'd rather do almost anything, Boromir.'.
You ftell, 'than take that choice'.
Boromir ftells, 'I know M'Lady '.
Boromir ftells, 'I know '.
Boromir ftells, 'the choice would be this persons .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'they would chose the path they wish ..'.
Boromir ftells, 'I would rather not .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'offer the choice .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'but if .. if they feel the rules are too restictive .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'and this sort of activity continues '.
Boromir ftells, 'you will have to make that choise for them ... '.
Boromir ftells, 'IF .. they chose to vacation in the cooler'.
Boromir ftells, 'which I hope they do :) '.
Boromir ftells, 'you can make sure .. that they know the next step is to be relased'.
Boromir ftells, 'if this person was xpin with Kain .. they would be someone senior in the following level wise'.
Boromir ftells, 'and we dont have many of those ... per se'.
Boromir ftells, 'other than that .. I'm not sure what else can be said'.
You ftell, '*nod*'.
Boromir ftells, '*bow*'.
You ftell, 'now it’s a matter of catching them.'.
Boromir ftells, 'on line.. or in the act? '.
You ftell, 'on line'.
Boromir ftells, 'there are times when I wish wasn’t a counselor *sad smile* if you know hwat I mean '.
Boromir ftells, 'OOC: afk for coffee '.
You ftell, '*nod*'.
You ftell, 'But I depend on you.'.
Boromir ftells, 'I know ..'.
Boromir ftells, 'so I just balance the tough ones and the fun ones ...'.
Boromir ftells, 'and hope it all works out'.
Boromir ftells, '*smile* '.
You ftell, '*nod*'.
You ftell, 'my default setting is 'leniency'... but there are times that it gives the wrong message to be so.'.
Boromir ftells, 'I know ... I try to be fair .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'in my opinions .. '.
Boromir ftells, 'to not lean either way ... '.
Boromir ftells, '*chuckle* *wry grin*'.
Boromir ftells, 'well ... Kain is derfinitely playing evil ... subverting non-evils :) '.
You ftell, 'true enough'.
(snip)
- Lanfear has connected.
- Lanfear has connected.
Lanfear ftells, 'greetings brothers and sisters'.
Noctus ftells, 'Hey Lan'.
The Cooler
[Exits: none]
> c summon lanfear
Lanfear arrives suddenly.
Lanfear quaffs a clear red potion.
Lanfear invokes recall magic.
Lanfear looks around.
You ponder the question.
You say, 'I don't know what to do, my friend.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'eh?'.
You say, 'When I gave you a roleplaying restriction last time, you ignored it when it was inconvenient.'.
You say, 'You've broken a rule, and I'm not sure how to punish you.'.
Lanfear cringes in terror!
You say, 'Were you grouped for the purpose of EXP with an Anathema?'.
Lanfear mutters angrily to herself.
Lanfear shakes her head.
You say, 'when you got level 28'.
> who follows Cordir
2 players.
Elf [ Ma:29 Ra:30 ] Lanfear, Chosen Mistress of Magic. *Fate* *Cordir*
Gno [ Wa:30 Cl:30 ] Noctus Newlywed *={==FATE==> * * Tranquility * *
Lanfear says (in common), 'well.. sorta yes'.
Garland yells (in old-common), '*Needs to give scrolls to Lanfear >:P'.
You yell, 'Lanfear is not available for a while.'.
Garland yells (in old-common), 'cannot find lanfear :>'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'for mm'.
Kain tells you (in drow), 'poor lanfear!'.
You tell Kain, 'You're an Anathema. We have rules against contact with them. Because we like you, I eased the 'no talking' rule. I shouldn't have.'.
You tell Kain, 'Then I found she was grouping and exp'ing with you. That's way over the line.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'guess deserve this'.
You nod.
Kain tells you (in drow), 'I'm sorry, I didn't think she'd be punished for it'.
You say, 'You realize that dealing with an Anathema is why Anduin was rejected?'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I did not mean to cause you pain'.
Lanfear blinks.
Lanfear says (in common), 'o :('.
You say, 'I don't want to reject you.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'no ..I didnt'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I don't want to be rejected :('.
You say, 'But I have to do SOMETHING to punish you... otherwise it shows that you can break any rule you like as a Chosen.'.
You say, 'and that makes me a laughingstock of a goddess who should simply retire.'.
You tell Kain, 'Yes, she will be punished as a result. You attack us. She cannot travel with you.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I did not break rules to harm Fate or hurt you'.
You nod.
You say, 'I know.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I tried to make Fate stronger'.
Lanfear sighs loudly.
You say, 'But, my friend, you ... and yes, I, too... have done things just without thinking them through.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'and I wasn't thinking'.
Lanfear nods.
Lanfear says (in common), 'Kain is a male Drow... I'm still so used to using them'.
You ponder the question.
Lanfear sighs loudly.
Lanfear pouts.
You say, 'What do you feel is an appropriate punishment?'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'give me a minute?'.
Lanfear sits down and thinks deeply.
Lanfear is an xp-whore as title?
You shake your head.
You say, 'No.'.
You say, 'That's not a punishment.'.
You say, 'And would get you no-titled by a god+'.
You say, 'right now, I"m considering cooler time.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I wont use weapon thius whole level?'.
You say, 'For one week. at least 30 minutes per day, ON LINE, verified by a Log.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'how about recall?'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'so I can help with imps?'.
You shake your head.
Lanfear shrugs.
Lanfear says (in common), 'your call'.
You ponder the question.
You say, 'Let me think on it for a moment.'.
Lanfear wields (Emanating light) Dawn, Submission of the Dark .
You say, 'The issue is one of enforcement.'.
You say, 'I can't be on all the time. So I have no way of knowing if you STAY in recall.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'Is this saying you dont trust me?'.
You say, 'The last time, when I ordered you to wear the Oath, you took it off . . . repeatedly.'.
Lanfear sighs at herself. What a sorry sight.
You say, 'I trusted you to wear it. But you took it off.'.
You say, 'So I'm not sure if I _can_ trust you, given your own past behaviour.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'it was..hrmm.. role playing of a sort.. I'm trouble'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I can be trusted'.
You say, 'but what if you 'roleplay trouble' some more'.
You say, 'and leave the recall room?'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'you saying you can't is pretty much punishment'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I see this is not about roleplaying'.
You say, 'It's about obeying my rules'.
You say, 'And me knowing you'll take your punishment.'.
You say, 'I"m trying to figure out if letting you have the social interaction of Recall is punishment.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'maybe not as much as here... true.. but I can be of use there'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'punishment.. penance'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'its your call'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I did break rule'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'and I'm sorry it hurt You'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'and I was hoping you could trust me'.
You say, 'I was hoping I could, too.'.
Lanfear sits down and thinks deeply.
You say, 'Punishments aren't subject to roleplay. Ask Saruman or Garvax.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I'll take any punishment without trying to wriggle my way out of it'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I did so with the Oath.. out of role playing point of view'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'If it hurt feelings in any way.. I'm sorry.. I thought you could ' grin' about that'.
You nod.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I would never wilingly hurt you, my Lady'.
Lanfear nods in recognition to you.
Lanfear says (in common), 'Grouping with Kain.. I thought would help Fate.'.
Lanfear shrugs away her problems.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I was stupid'.
You ponder the question.
You say, 'I will give you a choice.'.
You say, 'You can spend EITHER 7 hours in the Guild - with time logged on entry and exit'.
You say, 'OR you will spend 1 week, minimum 30 minutes per day.'.
You say, 'For that time, you will be no emoted.'.
You say, 'If you violate your punishment, it will be extended to Cooler time, doubled.'.
Lanfear says (in common), '1 week here?'.
Lanfear looks around.
You say, 'Guild.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'or 1 week no emotes?'.
You say, 'Recall.'.
You say, 'You'll be in the Guild... for 7 hours or for 1 week of at least 30 minutes per day. I'll give you that choice.'.
You ftell, 'hi Sol, dealing with a problem, sorry.'.
You say, 'For whichever punishment you choose, you'll be no emoted.'.
Lanfear says (in common), '"a problem" :('.
>NO_EMOTE set.
You nod.
You say, 'This IS a problem.'.
You say, 'I had Anduin tell an entire room full of people that Chosen can break my rules and get away with it, except him.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'sorry'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I will stay in guild for a week'.
You nod.
You say, 'Pick a room.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'mish'.
You nod.
You say, 'For that week, 30 minutes per day. and by that I don't mean you can leave the guild after those 30 minutes'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I'm sorry'.
You say, 'that's to ensure that you don't simply log off for a week and not play.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'I will be here'.
You say, 'I want there to not be any misunderstandings as to what the intent of the punishment is.'.
Lanfear says (in common), 'At mish'.
The Lower Hall
[Exits: north up]
Tuesday is here.
(Light Cyan Aura) Tranquility is here.
(Invis 70) (Intense Light Green Aura) Artanis is here.
(Light Red Aura) Anduin is here.
(Dark Red Aura) Apollyon is here.
(Light Blue Aura) Garland is here.
(Dark Red Aura) Kain is here.
Mish Leigh Salvandor will use her contacts to help you... for a price.
Lanfear arrives suddenly.
Tranquility hugs Lanfear.
Kain shows his approval by clapping his hands together.
Garland is so excited that he cheers just for the hell of it.
Kain softly nuzzles Lanfear's neck.
Artanis tweaks Lanfear's nose.
Tranquility smirks.
You say, 'Kain, please don't have any contact with Lanfear.'.
Lanfear prays, 'Im sorry Lady'.
Kain nods in recognition to you.
Lanfear prays, 'truly am.. I will ignore him from now on'.
Garland gives the bark scroll to Lanfear.
Garland gives the irrational scroll to Lanfear.
Garland gives the bound scroll to Lanfear.
Garland gives the yellow scroll to Lanfear.
Garland nods at himself; he must be getting senile.
Artanis is too afraid to tweak Cordir.
Kain tweaks your nose.
Tranquility blinks.
Kain says (in drow), 'but she's got the cutest nose!'.
Kain softly nuzzles Ephiny's neck.
Kain says (in drow), 'I was leaving wasn't I?'.
Kain scowls.
Kain has left the game.
Cordir: Lanfear's punishment
Type: notes
To: all
As of today, at 9:30 AM system time, Lanfear is being
punished. She is not to leave Mish's office for a period
of one week. She is to ID for any who ask it, save Anathema.
If you find her OUT of Mish's office, please log it, and
time stamp it, and send it to me at Cordir@hotmail.com
C.
You gossip, 'Note posted. Everyone, please read it when you have a moment.'.
Lanfear stands up.
- [Ephiny says (in common), 'IDs please, Lanfear']
- [Ephiny says (in common), 'IDs please, Lanfear']
You tell Lanfear, 'In case it wasn't very clear... please do not group with ANY anathema for ANY reason.'.
Lanfear prays, '*nod*'.
From the TFC Timeline:
March 30, 2002: In a underhanded attempt to further Lanfear's ongoing punishment (She is forbidden to leave the guild), Lins and Kaern portal her out of the guild. Kaern later profusely apologizes, while Lins reports Lanfear for leaving the Guild to Cordir, without providing the slight detail that he was the cause and means of her being out.